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Old 07-27-2013, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:00 PM
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Birds are not angry. Humans misinterpret animals' faces because our species does use expressions for communications.
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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That Canada Goose most likely had a nest nearby. They are very protective of their nests. I've been there and done that!
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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Birds are not angry. Humans misinterpret animals' faces because our species does use expressions for communications.
I'm fairly certain that birds have an emotional state that is equivalent to what we would call anger and they are certainly capable of expressing same.
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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If you look just to the left of the sidewalk and right behind the stones; you will see a sitting female. That goose isn't angry; it is just protecting a nest. Unfortunately; the nest is too close to the sidewalk. The goose and pedestrians will always be in conflict.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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That Canada Goose most likely had a nest nearby. They are very protective of their nests. I've been there and done that!
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If you look just to the left of the sidewalk and right behind the stones; you will see a sitting female. That goose isn't angry; it is just protecting a nest. Unfortunately; the nest is too close to the sidewalk. The goose and pedestrians will always be in conflict.
The goose was a good protective parent. I've heard complaints and opinions from people who really
dislike them (mostly their droppings and honking early in the morning). There was a little lake
that had swans, ducks and Canadian geese. I was able to get so close to the young geese
and they took food from my fingers (gently) while mom and dad were nearby watching.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:56 AM
 
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That looks like a Canadian Goose, those can be nasty, we have a lot of them around here. They will attack when their nest or babies are threatened, but will attack for other reasons as well, like just being in their space.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:17 PM
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I'm fairly certain that birds have an emotional state that is equivalent to what we would call anger and they are certainly capable of expressing same.
Of course they do, but the muscles and bones on the faces of many animals are in a sort of fixed expression because they don't use their faces for communications anywhere close to the extent that humans do. Attributing anger to animals in this sense is just another case of anthropomorphism, projecting human feelings onto animals that aren't necessarily experiencing those feelings at any given time. Humans can do animals a disservice by asserting that their normal expression is "angry."
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:02 PM
 
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Of course they do, but the muscles and bones on the faces of many animals are in a sort of fixed expression because they don't use their faces for communications anywhere close to the extent that humans do. Attributing anger to animals in this sense is just another case of anthropomorphism, projecting human feelings onto animals that aren't necessarily experiencing those feelings at any given time. Humans can do animals a disservice by asserting that their normal expression is "angry."
Sure, but a goose charging after an encroaching human with head lowered and feathers ruffled is certainly not in its normal, neutral state. There isn't any anthropomorphism in attributing anger or its equivalent to a clearly agitated bird. If humans had a monopoly on anger that would be one thing, but we don't. Birds have testosterone, adrenaline and cortisol hormone responses to stressful stimuli or situations just like we do and I don't think it's a disservice or even inaccurate to characterize a goose aggressively effecting the departure of an interloper as angry.
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:10 AM
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Sure, but a goose charging after an encroaching human with head lowered and feathers ruffled is certainly not in its normal, neutral state. There isn't any anthropomorphism in attributing anger or its equivalent to a clearly agitated bird. If humans had a monopoly on anger that would be one thing, but we don't. Birds have testosterone, adrenaline and cortisol hormone responses to stressful stimuli or situations just like we do and I don't think it's a disservice or even inaccurate to characterize a goose aggressively effecting the departure of an interloper as angry.
Well, duh. We're talking about 2 different things. I was referring to the current meme of Angry Birds.
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