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Old 01-28-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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New York State Department of Conservation intends to kill/remove all mute swans by 2025. Please sign the petition opposing this horrible slaughter.

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Old 01-29-2014, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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NY eyes plan to shoot, sterilize invasive mute swans along Lake Ontario, elsewhere | syracuse.com

It sounds as if there are legitimate reasons to reduce the population.
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Old 01-29-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I guess a choice needs to be made between leaving them alone to decimate other species or control them.
Native specie usually have accompanying natural controls.
They have no effective natural predator and reproduce abundantly.
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:36 AM
 
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I guess a choice needs to be made between leaving them alone to decimate other species or control them.
Native specie usually have accompanying natural controls.
They have no effective natural predator and reproduce abundantly.


The swans have been here since the 1800's. I haven't heard of any species becoming endangered due to them. There are only 2500 of them in NY so what is the problem? The DEC stands for Destroy Every Creature. I have had some serious issues with them in the past. Instead than conserving nature, they cater to hunters and manipulate, not control, the animal population.
There is no valid reason to kill the swans and don't for a minute entertain the thought that they will "remove" them. Nope, kill is what they are all about.
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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NY eyes plan to shoot, sterilize invasive mute swans along Lake Ontario, elsewhere | syracuse.com

It sounds as if there are legitimate reasons to reduce the population.
"Reduce"? Where does the DEC say reduce? They plan to kill ALL the swans in NY. A population of 2500 is certainly not a lot for the entire region.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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"Reduce"? Where does the DEC say reduce? They plan to kill ALL the swans in NY. A population of 2500 is certainly not a lot for the entire region.
How long does it take for 2500 to become 25000?

Other states also have a problem:

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlif...ement-plan.pdf

"Mute swans compete with native wildlife for limited food and habitat resources. They are large birds that consume substantial amounts of wetland and Submerged Aquatic Vegetation (SAV). Mute swans can negatively impact SAV beds and restoration plantings, especially during the summer growing season, by uprooting plants and denuding areas of vegetation. This reduces the availability and abundance of SAV for wintering waterfowl and other fish and wildlife populations dependent upon this habitat. Reductions in SAV growth also negatively affect water quality and other ecosystem functions.
Mute swans can be very aggressive and intimidating, often exhibiting antagonistic behavior toward other wildlife species. They can prevent native waterfowl from using traditional nesting and feeding habitats. They have displaced colonial nesting birds and native shorebirds from traditional nesting and roosting areas, and in some cases, mute swans have killed other wetland bird species. Their aggressive behavior has also been directed at other animals, pets and at people. Some human/swan conflicts have been severe enough to prevent people from using shoreline property and adjacent waters. Compounding these concerns is the fact that mute swans are non-migratory and therefore have impacts on these resources throughout the entire year."


It's not just a matter of deciding to kill a few pretty birds for the sake of killing them. If the population is unchecked, the swans can reduce the populations of other bird species. Which is worse: Kill the swans or let the swans threaten multiple other species?
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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just keep them around, and issue hunting licenses for a fee. This way the state makes money, keeps population in check, and we get to keep some wildlife around
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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everything has a right to life even if they are mute ....OMG to the rest of you who said it is okay with you if they cull them OMG get a heart or better yet get some blood running in your veins and not ice water ...we humans are horrible to other creatures who live on this earth with us .
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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everything has a right to life even if they are mute ....OMG to the rest of you who said it is okay with you if they cull them OMG get a heart or better yet get some blood running in your veins and not ice water ...we humans are horrible to other creatures who live on this earth with us .
When we take an animal out of its natural habitat and it ruins its new habitat for the animals that were already there, which animal should have priority?
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Look at wild pigs! they not native look how they are destroying forest & other areas for native animals! Yes these birds need to be removed! While they at it get rid of those Stink Bugs too!
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