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Old 02-11-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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......(SNIP)>>>>>Invasive species wise, our biggest issue, here in N NV, is flora related. A scrub "tree" we call salt cedar.......No offense, but let me add a little correction here>>> <<<<<<<
..Salt Cedar are : TAMARIX.....not TAMARACK
."Tamarack" are a "Deciduous Conifer" aka "Larch". Quite common here where I live in the mountains of western Montana.It is a "semi-hardwood" and is wonderful wood for house framing and other structual uses....it is however more expensive than many of the species of Pine.

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Old 02-11-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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I find it hugely ironic when people talk about invasive species.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:23 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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......(SNIP)>>>>>Invasive species wise, our biggest issue, here in N NV, is flora related. A scrub "tree" we call salt cedar.......No offense, but let me add a little correction here>>> <<<<<<<
..Salt Cedar are : TAMARIX.....not TAMARACK
."Tamarack" are a "Deciduous Conifer" aka "Larch". Quite common here where I live in the mountains of western Montana.It is a "semi-hardwood" and is wonderful wood for house framing and other structual uses....it is however more expensive than many of the species of Pine.
My auto correct put that up that way, but honestly , I didn't know the difference. Thanks. Bad as that stuff is Tree of Heaven is worse. Kept me vainfjlly working when I was still doing plumbing, though. Did quite a few sewer and septic line replacements because of that stuff.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:24 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I find it hugely ironic when people talk about invasive species.
And why is that? If I may ask.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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And why is that? If I may ask.
I think they are probably referring to the fact that all humans are invasive species in North America. Or maybe they're talking about the fact that most invasive species in North America have been introduced by humans?

Maybe the poster will return and explain. I am interested as well.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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And why is that? If I may ask.
"An invasive species can be any kind of living organism—an amphibian, plant, insect, fish, fungus, bacteria, or even an organism’s seeds or eggs—that is not native to an ecosystem and which causes harm. They can harm the environment, the economy or even, human health. Species that grow and reproduce quickly, and spread aggressively, with potential to cause harm, are given the label of “invasive”."-http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/threats-to-wildlife/invasive-species.aspx

"An invasive species is a plant or animal that is not native to a specific location (an Introduced species); and has a tendency to spread, which is believed to cause damage to the environment."-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species

The reason I say it's ironic is we humans are by far the most destructive invasive species that has ever existed. We should be worrying about how to manage us before we try to work on the Eucalyptus trees or wild pigs.
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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The reason I say it's ironic is we humans are by far the most destructive invasive species that has ever existed. We should be worrying about how to manage us before we try to work on the Eucalyptus trees or wild pigs.
Keep in mind all the environmental, immigration, zoning and other self-restricting laws we as humans impose on ourselves. No other species recognizes that it has the potential to become a pest and no other species actively seeks to regulate it's own destructive potentials.

If prairie dogs and gophers had backhoes, the Earth would definitely be in trouble.
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Don't forget fungi have wiped out some of our most valuable (ecologically and financially) trees: chestnut blight is a major example, it's unbelievable what we lost with that species. Massive trees, massive mast crops every year for wildlife, rot resistant lumber, and they grew fast and lived a long time too. Butternut as well has been impacted by another fungus, though not many people even know of the tree, it's arguably the best wild nut tree of the north where more southern species can't live. Insects like the emerald ash borer are another tiny invasive that causes big problems.
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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"An invasive species can be any kind of living organism—an amphibian, plant, insect, fish, fungus, bacteria, or even an organism’s seeds or eggs—that is not native to an ecosystem and which causes harm. They can harm the environment, the economy or even, human health. Species that grow and reproduce quickly, and spread aggressively, with potential to cause harm, are given the label of “invasive”."-http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/threats-to-wildlife/invasive-species.aspx

"An invasive species is a plant or animal that is not native to a specific location (an Introduced species); and has a tendency to spread, which is believed to cause damage to the environment."-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species

The reason I say it's ironic is we humans are by far the most destructive invasive species that has ever existed. We should be worrying about how to manage us before we try to work on the Eucalyptus trees or wild pigs.
We have an obligation in my view to work against the damage we as a species has done. Which means eliminating the feral pigs that threaten wildlife and plants, finding a way to restore lost species like the chestnut trees or bison or elk or caribou and so forth to their native range wherever possible.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The two big issues we have in the Great Lakes region are zebra mussels brought in via the St. Lawrence Seaway, and now the Asian carp that escaped from a fish hatchery in Louisiana and have made it all the way up the inland waterways northern Illinois, laying absolute waste to the ecosystem of the rivers along the way. They breed so prodigiously that in some parts of the Illinois River they represent nearly half the entire fish stock, They eat everydamnthing in sight. The Army Corps of Engineers has had to resort to electrically charging the Chicago Sanitary and Shipping Canal in two spots on the make sure they don't make their way into Lake Michigan, because if they get there it's lights out for the Great Lakes ecosystem.
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