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Old 11-27-2017, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I hope he will be okay, but I agree with those who say he had no business owning that snake. There are plenty of lovely serpents that make good pets. The whole story reeks of over-confidence and an unhealthy desire to impress others by owning a potentially deadly animal.
I soooo dislike hearing people say that keepers of venomous reptiles do so to "impress" others. That's not the case whatsoever. Usually it drives people away! They're not out to impress anyone. Its a desire to own them out of curiosity and fascination, even for their beauty. The downside is that there is always a risk of being bitten. People keep dangerous dog breeds (ie pits, rotts, etc) that are responsible for dozens of deaths each year, and no one seems to care about that! And those animals are free to roam the yards and neighborhoods as they choose.


A proper "hot" snake owner has a dedicated room for them with proper cages, handling equipment, emergency protocol in case of envenomation, and a list of numbers/hospitals/anti-venin at the ready, just in case.
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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I soooo dislike hearing people say that keepers of venomous reptiles do so to "impress" others. That's not the case whatsoever. Usually it drives people away! They're not out to impress anyone. Its a desire to own them out of curiosity and fascination, even for their beauty. The downside is that there is always a risk of being bitten. People keep dangerous dog breeds (ie pits, rotts, etc) that are responsible for dozens of deaths each year, and no one seems to care about that! And those animals are free to roam the yards and neighborhoods as they choose.


A proper "hot" snake owner has a dedicated room for them with proper cages, handling equipment, emergency protocol in case of envenomation, and a list of numbers/hospitals/anti-venin at the ready, just in case.
I did not mean to imply that this is the case of all such owners, and am sorry if I left that impression.

I do, however, believe that there is a certain mindset that enjoys the cachet of owning certain animals as status symbols. As for the dog breeds you have mentioned, you are way off base in saying that no one cares. They are only a couple of breeds on a long list that are forbidden in some communities, and make it very difficult to purchase liability insurance from most companies. I also have no patience with people who allow any dog to run loose, unless they live on a ranch and have the dog to protect their livestock.

Did you look at the pictures that accompanied those stories? One shows him using a hook to handle a snake. It seems to me that if a snake is dangerous enough to require a hook to move it, it might be a good idea to wear clothing that provides a bit more protection than a tank top.

I am sure there are people who have the expertise to own such animals and who take the risks seriously. I'm just not convinced that this particular young man is one of them.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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They're not out to impress anyone.
If this were the case, the kid wouldn't have plastered his photos and videos all over the place.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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If this were the case, the kid wouldn't have plastered his photos and videos all over the place.
He's sharing his passion with the world. Doesn't mean he's trying to impress anyone. The vast majority of the world is utterly turned off by snakes, ophidiophobia is a very real thing. Like Steve Irwin, he's probably just showing his love for venomous creatures, as do I. I could care less what anyone thinks of me.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:16 PM
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He's recovered from his bite and plans to continue keeping snakes, including that one.
Aussie Reptile Lover Recovers From Inland Taipan Snake Bite
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Old 11-28-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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The correct title of this thread should be "Adult bitten by his pet venomous snake fights for his life". That would be much more accurate.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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No matter how many snakes he has or has handled, I don't believe a teen qualifies as a herpetologist. I'm glad he's recovering but he's a great example of why venomous snakes don't belong in teenage hands.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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No matter how many snakes he has or has handled, I don't believe a teen qualifies as a herpetologist. I'm glad he's recovering but he's a great example of why venomous snakes don't belong in teenage hands.

Keeping venomous snakes is most often associated with medical research of some kind or another. Keeping any venomous critter just for the sake of having it is rather rare. I can't imagine what the fascination is with keeping such animals as pets.


I also do not particularly care for dogs like Pits and Rotts. Though what is being called a "Pitbull" is more often than not some junkyard, back yard "breeders mongrel mixture and not a true Pit. You know the type. They live vicariously through these Frankenbreed dogs that they feed gunpowder in raw meat to so that their dog is just TOO bad azz.
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