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Old 06-25-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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I know they've been confirmed in parts of the state, but didn't think they were around here.
Since they've been confirmed in Tennessee it's entirely possible that they're in your area, too. Cougars can travel an incredible distance. The longest trek on record is of a Cougar that went through Michigan's Upper Peninsula on its way from South Dakota to Connecticut. Unfortunately, it was killed by a car in Connecticut.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...76Q5ZE20110727
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Old 06-25-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Since they've been confirmed in Tennessee it's entirely possible that they're in your area, too. Cougars can travel an incredible distance. The longest trek on record is of a Cougar that went through Michigan's Upper Peninsula on its way from South Dakota to Connecticut. Unfortunately, it was killed by a car in Connecticut.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...76Q5ZE20110727

I think that we spotted that lion on it's way to Connecticut. Considering how much time had elapsed from out sighting until it was killed on the Connecticut roads; it very easily could have been the same cat - but I will never know. Some had speculated that that cat taken a northern route; but that would have involved crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway and I would think that might not happen.

But it is irrelevant now. My Game Commission claims that there are none in PA and they do have the facts on their side. They do not have one carcass. with our very busy roads it is a amazing that one has never been killed in PA. But there is always tomorrow and who knows!
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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But it is irrelevant now. My Game Commission claims that there are none in PA and they do have the facts on their side. They do not have one carcass. with our very busy roads it is a amazing that one has never been killed in PA. But there is always tomorrow and who knows!
I wouldn't consider the lack of a roadkill carcass as being definitive. Michigan has had several sightings over the years--in both the Upper and Lower Peninsula--and there have been a number of Cougars documented on trail cams. Although there may have been a roadkill many years ago (I couldn't find evidence of any after a quick online search), there have been no roadkill that I'm aware of in recent years.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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Most black panther reports turn out to be house cats. The remainder are probably cryptids.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I wouldn't consider the lack of a roadkill carcass as being definitive. Michigan has had several sightings over the years--in both the Upper and Lower Peninsula--and there have been a number of Cougars documented on trail cams. Although there may have been a roadkill many years ago (I couldn't find evidence of any after a quick online search), there have been no roadkill that I'm aware of in recent years.

We got within 20 yards of the animal chasing it down a dirt road in our pickup at about 35 mph. As soon as we got home I called our Game Commission with the hope that they would come out and document our encounter. But they were not interested. Part of that is because they are understaffed in the summer; when there is no hunting season. As a matter of fact, in my area, they have an office that covers three counties. I do admit that it would have been hard to document even if they came out. The road was dry and dusty and maybe we rode over the tracks chasing the cat.

To our Game Commission PA mountain lions are like Big Foot. Give them the carcass, let them test it, and then they might believe. Of course there is a danger in this. When I reported our sighting and they did not believe me; I asked them if it was OK to shoot it the next time I encountered the lion. They said absolutely NO - it was an endangered species. I asked how it could be endangered if it did not exist? Thinking over who I was talking to I withdrew my question and promised never to shoot one, at least with a gun, if I ever encountered one again. I never did see another one.
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: The South
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Most black panther reports turn out to be house cats. The remainder are probably cryptids.
About 15 years ago, in South Florida, a large animal crossed the road in front of me at night. It was about the size of a German Shepard, had a long tail, Was solid black . I presumed it was some type of cat. Four of us us saw it and we all agreed on its description.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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A friend got a photograph of a large (Puma/Mountain Lion size) cat with a Bobcat head (pointed ears with tufts and cheek/chin "beard") and a Bobcat tail (short, tan with a black tip). The body was Puma solid tan and sleek and the visible underparts (inside of the legs) were striped. This is recent and in central NM. We seem to have an influx of Bobcats in the area and fewer Coyotes. I don't think I have seen a Coyote all year. We seem to have plenty of Mountain Lions. Supposedly, a Bobcat and Puma hybrid is impossible but both can breed with Ocelots. This was no Ocelot sized cat and not marked like that. We had an Ocelot pass through here a few years ago, not common at all. This might have been the world champion Bobcat but the short tan coat and size makes it very odd if that is what it is. A Lynx would not be around here.
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Old 10-23-2020, 03:02 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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A friend got a photograph of a large (Puma/Mountain Lion size) cat with a Bobcat head (pointed ears with tufts and cheek/chin "beard") and a Bobcat tail (short, tan with a black tip). The body was Puma solid tan and sleek and the visible underparts (inside of the legs) were striped. This is recent and in central NM. We seem to have an influx of Bobcats in the area and fewer Coyotes. I don't think I have seen a Coyote all year. We seem to have plenty of Mountain Lions. Supposedly, a Bobcat and Puma hybrid is impossible but both can breed with Ocelots. This was no Ocelot sized cat and not marked like that. We had an Ocelot pass through here a few years ago, not common at all. This might have been the world champion Bobcat but the short tan coat and size makes it very odd if that is what it is. A Lynx would not be around here.
Well, there's a lot of variation in size and coat pattern as its such a widespread species. You could have had one big adult with minimal patterning dominating more and more of the gene pool over several generations making those traits more pronounced. I've read that in some locales some only show obvious spotting/striping patterns on their undersides. Coat patterns are very faint or missing on the back and sides.

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Old 10-23-2020, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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A friend got a photograph of a large (Puma/Mountain Lion size) cat with a Bobcat head (pointed ears with tufts and cheek/chin "beard") and a Bobcat tail (short, tan with a black tip). The body was Puma solid tan and sleek and the visible underparts (inside of the legs) were striped. This is recent and in central NM. We seem to have an influx of Bobcats in the area and fewer Coyotes. I don't think I have seen a Coyote all year. We seem to have plenty of Mountain Lions. Supposedly, a Bobcat and Puma hybrid is impossible but both can breed with Ocelots. This was no Ocelot sized cat and not marked like that. We had an Ocelot pass through here a few years ago, not common at all. This might have been the world champion Bobcat but the short tan coat and size makes it very odd if that is what it is. A Lynx would not be around here.
Could your friend email you the picture and could you post it here on CD?
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:49 PM
 
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Most black panther reports turn out to be house cats. The remainder are probably cryptids.
Well I don't think many people realize a panther is not a species of cat. A panther could be any large cat which is black.
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