The world of birds (mice, beetle, wildlife, pet)

[tamiznluv]

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

Sorry, that was me translating from the German.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilgans

In English, Egyptian goose. They were kept because they look nice but many escaped. They now live wild here in Germany.

That is one goose I would not like to feed by hand like I used to the Canadian geese that congregated at one of my old house. Look at that hook on the end of the beak!

At my old house down Cape Cod, I used to sit out in a cleared patch that my dad had made and a titmouse would come land on my head every time! It like my Pebbles Flintstone way I wore my hair. So cute!

[ByeByeLW]

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

Sorry, that was me translating from the German.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilgans

In English, Egyptian goose. They were kept because they look nice but many escaped. They now live wild here in Germany.

And also here in South Florida.

We call our sparrow hawk the American kestrel.

There’s a cute YouTube about them. “ I am the smallest falcon in North America. I used to be called the sparrow hawk”..

And our “buzzards” are vultures . But you call certain hawks buzzards, correct?

So your sparrow hawk is the Eurasian kestrel?

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by ByeByeLW

And also here in South Florida.

Nice to look at but crazy, especially when it is the breeding season.

Originally Posted by ByeByeLW

We call our sparrow hawk the American kestrel.

There’s a cute YouTube about them. “ I am the smallest falcon in North America. I used to be called the sparrow hawk”..

I found a few videos on Youtube. You have a nice looking Kestrel.

Originally Posted by ByeByeLW

And our “buzzards” are vultures . But you call certain hawks buzzards, correct?

Not in Germany, and I do not think they do in England. I believe they sometimes call buzzards "hawks" in the US.

Originally Posted by ByeByeLW

So your sparrow hawk is the Eurasian kestrel?

No, it is different to our Sparrowhawk. The Sparrowhawk is bigger, and hunts other birds. A female could take a Kestrel. The Kestrel hovers looking for rodents.

[tamiznluv]

I have never heard of a buzzard/vulture called a hawk!

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by tamiznluv

I have never heard of a buzzard/vulture called a hawk!

Which is why Latin names are used by scientists, to avoid this type of confusion. I do no mean the vulture you call a buzzard, I mean the birds of the Buteo genus.

So we have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_buzzard

In the US you have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-winged_hawk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferruginous_hawk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_hawk

[tamiznluv]

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

Which is why Latin names are used by scientists, to avoid this type of confusion. I do no mean the vulture you call a buzzard, I mean the birds of the Buteo genus.

So we have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_buzzard

In the US you have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-winged_hawk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferruginous_hawk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_hawk

Huhn, your German "buzzard" is a Cooper's hawk.

[lkb0714]

Originally Posted by greatblueheron

Everyone has a right to a favorite bird.

Well yes and no. Sure you can like any bird you like, but as a group bird lovers are notorious for introducing those favorite birds to new places to awful effect.

[lkb0714]

Originally Posted by tamiznluv

Huhn, your German "buzzard" is a Cooper's hawk.

A Cooper’s hawk is in the same genus as sparrow hawks abut are a separate North American species. It’s like wolves and dingoes.

[ByeByeLW]

The common buzzard (buteo buteo) is a hawk found throughout Europe and Asia.

There are others types of buzzards like the honey buzzard, rough legged buzzard in Europe and Asia.

Our American Cooper’s hawk is an accipiter, not a buteo. The common buzzard(Harry’s example) is buteo buteo; Cooper’s hawk is accipiter cooperii.

In North America, a buzzard is a vulture, most commonly a turkey buzzard. They are New World vultures. European vultures are Old World vultures.

It has to do with the difference between accipitidrae and buteo. What’s in a name?

Kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genera, species...

There are 3 accipiters in North America:sharp-shinned hawk, Coopers Hawk, and the Northern Goshawks.

Harry, I looked up your Sparrowhawk. I had forgotten about it. So much bigger than our little kestrel!

Soon the kestrels will be coming down to Florida. I can’t wait to hear “Klee Klee Klee Klee”. Lizards beware!

[greatblueheron]

Originally Posted by ByeByeLW

The common buzzard (buteo buteo) is a hawk found throughout Europe and Asia.

There are others types of buzzards like the honey buzzard, rough legged buzzard in Europe and Asia.

Our American Cooper’s hawk is an accipiter, not a buteo. The common buzzard(Harry’s example) is buteo buteo; Cooper’s hawk is accipiter cooperii.

In North America, a buzzard is a vulture, most commonly a turkey buzzard. They are New World vultures. European vultures are Old World vultures.

It has to do with the difference between accipitidrae and buteo. What’s in a name?

Kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genera, species...

There are 3 accipiters in North America:sharp-shinned hawk, Coopers Hawk, and the Northern Goshawks.

Harry, I looked up your Sparrowhawk. I had forgotten about it. So much bigger than our little kestrel!

Soon the kestrels will be coming down to Florida. I can’t wait to hear “Klee Klee Klee Klee”. Lizards beware!

I love kestrels....always see them on power lines, observing the area for prey.