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Old 10-07-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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What I have noticed is new species. We have Euro doves here now and not even 5 years ago you rarely saw one. So few I actually thought at first they were band tails. Now they are everywhere and adapting fast. On any given morning in the winter I'd have 15 white wing and mourning doves in the yard. Now that has doubled with the Euros. They love going after the chicken scratch.

The Coopers are thick and picking them off left and right.
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Old 10-07-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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This goes hand in hand with declines in the insect population.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...hy-it-matters/

There is a growing push to plant wild flowers and native plants anf replacing grass with groundcovers which attract and sustain pollinators. Unfortunately, native plants can be weedy and do not fit the image of a trim lawn beloved by so many, actively enforced by HOA’s and promoted by the lawn care industry. That perfect look maintained by pesticide/herbicides/fertilizers is killing insects and pollinators and polluting water, which has a cascading effect on other wildlife, birds just being one of the many.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Well we cant blame DDT ,Rachel Carson took care of that.. Now its Global Warming ,oops Climate Change. I think when Trump is reelected he will be the cause.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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It helps to actually read the article.
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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It helps to actually read the article.
I commented on Three of the reply's to the article, I guess you didn't like the summery in my comment.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:43 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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This goes hand in hand with declines in the insect population.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...hy-it-matters/

There is a growing push to plant wild flowers and native plants anf replacing grass with groundcovers which attract and sustain pollinators. Unfortunately, native plants can be weedy and do not fit the image of a trim lawn beloved by so many, actively enforced by HOA’s and promoted by the lawn care industry. That perfect look maintained by pesticide/herbicides/fertilizers is killing insects and pollinators and polluting water, which has a cascading effect on other wildlife, birds just being one of the many.

You should have stopped before adding the comment highlighted. It's the perfect look that's eliminating the habitat the pollinators, other insects & birds need for food & cover, not the chemicals that provide the perfect look....A lawn is a desert.


Out here in rural America, Nature still thrives.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:21 AM
 
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You should have stopped before adding the comment highlighted. It's the perfect look that's eliminating the habitat the pollinators, other insects & birds need for food & cover, not the chemicals that provide the perfect look....A lawn is a desert.


Out here in rural America, Nature still thrives.
You do a disservice to deserts by lumping them in with a Scott’s lawn. Lawns were not always a sterile environment and deserts never have been.

Dandelions and clover were declared weeds to be sprayed into oblivion to get that perfect look and grass could not go to seed anymore to maintain the “correct” height. Without clover to fix nitrogen in the soil, fertilizer is needed. No dandelions meant no nectar for pollinators. Grass not going to seed is one less food source for birds. The destroy/restore cycle of a perfect lawn makes chemical use a never ending circle of profit with dire results.

Nature thrives wherever native plants are allowed to flourish.

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Old 10-09-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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You do a disservice to deserts by lumping them in with a Scott’s lawn. Lawns were not always a sterile environment and deserts never have been.

Dandelions and clover were declared weeds to be sprayed into oblivion to get that perfect look and grass could not go to seed anymore to maintain the “correct” height. Without clover to fix nitrogen in the soil, fertilizer is needed. No dandelions meant no nectar for pollinators. Grass not going to seed is one less food source for birds. The destroy/restore cycle of a perfect lawn makes chemical use a never ending circle of profit with dire results.

Nature thrives wherever native plants are allowed to flourish.

You're absolutely right. Good post. (I was being poetic about deserts.)


My "lawn" is the 10 ft strip of ground right in front of the porch, the house sitting in the middle of a 30 ac meadow. We only mow it to about a 6 in. height every couple weeks. I was amazed to notice that bumble bees apparently prefer to feed on the dull plantain flowers as opposed to the white or red clover growing right next to them....Even this late in Oct we had several American Painted Ladies feeding on the clover yesterday.


Bees really like clover, dandelions and the dreaded Creeping Charlie, but those are tabu in the manicured lawns of Suburbia.
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