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Better yet a FAKE tree they can Reuse & Save Tax Payers Money!
I know you mean well but that's a bad suggestion.
Ninety percent of artificial trees are shipped from China. Real trees contribute local jobs, clean the air, provide habitat (fish, deer, rodents, coyotes, fox, and others), erosion control and more. You won't find an owl nesting in a fake tree.
Real trees are recyclable, artificial go to landfills.
A little time in research will turn up more reasons why real Christmas trees are beneficial.
Real Christmas Trees are Dead Trees They Dont Breath or Clean the air! they Shed Cause Fires Leave creatures behind Cats climb on them Dogs Pee on them When they are Kicked to the curb they have Wire in them other metals which makes it too dangerous to recycle them.
Better yet a FAKE tree they can Reuse & Save Tax Payers Money!
How will it save tax payers money?
First of all, the tree is donated, whereas a fake tree would cost money and need to be stored besides. Secondly, how are you getting taxpayers involved? Rockefeller Center is private property, owned by the commercial RE firm Tishman Speyer. I guess you mean cost of cops or whatever to deal with crowds? Well, maybe, but on the other hand, the tree brings in lots of tourism dollars, and therefore, sales taxes that probably outweigh NYPD OT.
The branches of the tree get mulched and the trunk is turned into lumber that is donated to Habitat for Humanity. Not really seeing the great benefit of a fake tree over a live one here.
Real Christmas Trees are Dead Trees They Dont Breath or Clean the air! they Shed Cause Fires Leave creatures behind Cats climb on them Dogs Pee on them When they are Kicked to the curb they have Wire in them other metals which makes it too dangerous to recycle them.
No but before they are harvested they provide all the benefits of real trees. In our neighborhood, most trees put on the curb are picked up for recycling. Trees are chopped down & then replanted. Thinning out the forests is good for the remaining trees. We used to get a real tree from a Christmas Tree farm, it was a local family business & they always had a new field of smaller trees, to replace that seasons crop.
Glad to see the owl was released. I still think they should use a living tree that's potted and then after the season, re-plant it somewhere near NYC. Seems to be the best option.
Glad to see the owl was released. I still think they should use a living tree that's potted and then after the season, re-plant it somewhere near NYC. Seems to be the best option.
LMAO. Where would you find a pot that big? See Post No. 4.
Real Christmas Trees are Dead Trees They Dont Breath or Clean the air! they Shed Cause Fires Leave creatures behind Cats climb on them Dogs Pee on them When they are Kicked to the curb they have Wire in them other metals which makes it too dangerous to recycle them.
Fake trees are dead trees. They don't breathe and *never* did, but real trees did while they were growing. Cats climb fake trees and dogs pee on them. Fake trees are kicked to the curb with non-biodegradable plastic. There are 4,000+ facilities that recycle real trees in the US. If people haven't cleaned up their tree to make it ready for chipping it will be done before the tree is re-purposed.
Glad to see the owl was released. I still think they should use a living tree that's potted and then after the season, re-plant it somewhere near NYC. Seems to be the best option.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
LMAO. Where would you find a pot that big? See Post No. 4.
MQ801, you have the right of it and good understanding of the complexities involved.
Wintergirl80, unless you mean a really small 20 feet tall live tree in a pot (which would be against Rockefeller purposes), what you're proposing is not possible. The Christmas tree there this year is 75 feet tall, it's one of the smallest of trees they've had there in the past but it's still a big tree. Having a really big tree there is the whole point of putting a tree there for Christmas. It's not possible to uproot and transplant a tree that size and have it survive, so to use a living tree it would be necessary to use a much, much smaller tree.
It might be possible to make a really huge temporary container for a smaller living tree that is half that size, so say maybe a live tree that is around 40 feet tall planted in a container that is the size of a big round backyard swimming pool. A container 30 feet wide by 15 feet deep might be adequate to accommodate the roots temporarily for a 40 feet tall tree. The temporary container could be dismantled after the tree and the soil in the container have been removed and trucked away after the New Year. The container would take up a huge amount of space in the square while it's there over Christmas time.
However, there is no benefit in using a live tree and in all likelihood the live tree will die.... there's a 98% likelihood of it dying. The tree will go into shock within 48 hours (they always do) and will immediately begin to droop and then, because even at a short 40 feet high it's still a big tree it will die anyway after having so much interference and damage happening to it. The chances of the live tree surviving after having been dug up and up-rooted out of the ground are minimal because it will not be possible to do all of that to the tree without damaging all of the feeder roots and hair roots. And then it has to go through all of the same trauma again when it gets removed and transplanted somewhere else. It's going to die for sure after that.
Of course that whole enterprise of putting a little live tree there would defeat the entire purpose of having a really impressively big cut tree erected there for Christmas, and the costs of doing all of that would be exorbitantly expensive. Much more expensive than maneuvering and erecting and then later disposing of a cut tree that is twice as tall.
So what would be the point of it? Either way you look at it, any tree destined for that square is still going to die whether it's a 40 feet short one or an 80 feet tall one.
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