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I don't give a rat's behind whether you move on or not. You want to keep beating a dead horse because it makes you feel good, go ahead. Write a book about it. You obviously haven't gotten your fill in the Politics forum so enjoy yourself here.
Spotted owl is not really endangered and it lives just fine in new forest. It was a political lie that the owl can only survive in old growth. They live in all sorts of forest.
Ahh, no. They do use 2nd growth in some parts of their range, but not so much in others, and they can't meet all of their life requirements in "all sorts of forest."
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Even with logging, there is plenty of forest left for owls. Proper logging helps to reduce forest fires, which is beneficial to owls.
Volume doesn't matter if its not the right kind of forest.
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Maybe you can give up on this one and find something else to be outraged about.
I'm outraged that extensive logging in the western US and Canada in the mid 20th century created corridors of disturbance for the barred owl to move into the Pacfic Northwest and outcompete and sometimes kill spotted owls.
The Trump administration has said that it would slash millions of acres of protected habitat designated for the imperilled northern spotted owl in Oregon, Washington state and northern California, much of it in prime timber locations in Oregon’s coastal ranges.
Environmentalists immediately decried the move and accused the US Fish and Wildlife Service under President Donald Trump of taking a parting shot at protections designed to help restore the species in favour of the timber industry.
The Trump administration on Tuesday finalised changes that weaken the government’s enforcement powers under a century-old law protecting most American wild bird species, brushing aside warnings that billions of birds could die as a result.
Weird - isn't trump totally against wind turbines supposedly because they kill some birds? Actually I doubt he really cares one way or the other about birds - just catering to some special interest so he can make a few bucks.
UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — It may seem counterintuitive, but forest fires are actually beneficial to spotted owls, according to Penn State biologist Derek Lee.
Lee analyzed the results from every published scientific study about the effects of wildfire on the threatened birds, summarizing his results in a paper published in 2018 in the journal Ecosphere. His results have important implications for management of forests inhabited by spotted owls, which assumes that fire is a major threat to the owls.
New research reveals that, contrary to current perceptions and forest management strategies, wildfires may be beneficial to populations of spotted owls, including those of the subspecies of California spotted owls pictured here.
IMAGE: John S. Senser, U.S. Forest Service
In a follow-up paper published this week in Ecosphere, Lee, an associate research professor of biology, responded to several criticisms of his 2018 paper. After reanalyzing the data according to suggestions, he came to the same conclusions: Wildfires either have no effect or a positive effect on most parameters that researchers have studied, suggesting that current conservation forest management practices critically need to be updated.
No, he didn't. Please show proof of your assertion that Obama did not protect certain bird species.
When I say "Obama did the same thing on his way out the door", I mean that he wrote a flurry of Executive Orders that the next President was sure to overturn. I vividly recall online "news" articles in early 2017 that were shocked --shocked! -- that the new President would overturn regulations. A little research showed that these regulations were only enacted one or two months earlier.
These last-minute executive orders, I'm not sure what the purpose is. If the subject is so important as to warrant an EO then why wait until the last minute? BTW I expect Biden will do the same at the end of his term (or Harris will, if she finishes Biden's term) if the other party takes over the White House.
Beautiful picture there. I'm all for environmental preservation and dislike very strongly trump's entire environmental changes. Shove the people into cities as they continue to multiply, protect the environment from US.
Don't know why anyone is surprised by an outgoing administration's Hail Mary Pass attempts to leave a "legacy". They know better than anyone else that the incoming administration will spend time and taxpayer $ to overturn/undo them. Deflect, delay, and deal. Political football with whatever the issue was in the first place. In the case of the environment, it will still be going to hell in a handbasket the entire time. That will earn the new administration a reputation for not achieving much of anything new. Which is what the outgoing administration was hoping for all along. The next go round they can claim they are saviors and will actually affect change all over again.
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Good. The EPA unfairly restricts economic activity; you can't even build a building on a perfectly safe, dry piece of ground without having to file an Environmental Impact Statement that can take a year or more to approve.
It's about time someone put a leash on them.
And thankfully restricts those who would happily poison someone else's water supply to make a buck.
UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — It may seem counterintuitive, but forest fires are actually beneficial to spotted owls, according to Penn State biologist Derek Lee.
Lee analyzed the results from every published scientific study about the effects of wildfire on the threatened birds, summarizing his results in a paper published in 2018 in the journal Ecosphere. His results have important implications for management of forests inhabited by spotted owls, which assumes that fire is a major threat to the owls.
New research reveals that, contrary to current perceptions and forest management strategies, wildfires may be beneficial to populations of spotted owls, including those of the subspecies of California spotted owls pictured here.
IMAGE: John S. Senser, U.S. Forest Service
In a follow-up paper published this week in Ecosphere, Lee, an associate research professor of biology, responded to several criticisms of his 2018 paper. After reanalyzing the data according to suggestions, he came to the same conclusions: Wildfires either have no effect or a positive effect on most parameters that researchers have studied, suggesting that current conservation forest management practices critically need to be updated.
Shouldn't it be called the "striped owl"? I don't see any spots, at least not like on a Dalmatian.
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