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Old 01-13-2023, 02:48 PM
 
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What about whales?



https://news.yahoo.com/pause-sought-...203352588.html


Lawmakers at local, state and federal levels called Friday for a temporary pause in ocean floor preparation work for offshore wind farms in New Jersey and New York after another dead whale washed ashore in the area...The death was the seventh in a little over a month.

Most of New Jersey's major environmental groups said this week that they support offshore wind energy.
“The climate crisis demands that we quickly develop renewable energy, and offshore wind is critically important for New Jersey to reach the state’s economic development and environmental justice goals,” the groups said in a statement.


See? The climate crisis demands that we quickly develop renewable energy. They never mention reduction in energy use, which continues to rise. Its all about doing whatever is necessary to continue our unsustainable economic development and high tech lifestyles.
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Old 01-13-2023, 03:47 PM
 
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Birds have rough lives. Besides windmills and cats, they're killed by snakes, hawks, owls, hailstorms, ice storms, and boys with BB guns. The best thing a person do to help the birds is to build a big brush pile in their back yard. Doing this will provide birds with protection with much of the above.
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Old 01-14-2023, 05:47 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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The numbers reported in any scientific study need to be kept in perspective, even if we ignore the credibility of numbers...Headlines in the popular press often quote the sensational number that "3 BILLION birds have been lost from N Am in the last 50 yrs!!"...That would be sensational news if there were only 3.1 B to start with, but in fact, they estimate 10B as the intial pop count, so a 25% fall is a little less impressive..Almost all of that can be attributed to habitat loss....

John Muir grew up in a marshy part of WI near Portage (wet lands. Good habitat for RWBBs). In his biography, he states that every spring trees would be covered by hundreds of redwinged blackbirds. That was 150 y/a when the total population of people in WI was 500,000..Now it's 6,000,000-- almost all growth in that southern half of the state....RWBBs no longer cover entire trees in the spring...Is it from all those new cats or loss of breeding & feeding grounds?

I'm not a fan of industrial sized Unreliable Energy installations. The large wind turbines kill more birds than the Feds are willing to admit, but right now, they probably only account for a small percentage of "extra" avian mortality...But to go "Net Zero" we'd have to increase the number installations by 1,000,000 (!!) https://heartland.org/opinion/net-ze...-1--wind-only/ Right now, we have only 71,000 in service....It's gunna get ugly.
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Old 01-14-2023, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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There are many different man made things that contribute to the death of bird. All those glass reflective buildings are a very high kill rate. There were complaints about the Vikings stadium in Minneapolis. It's been reported that they go around the building multiple times a day to pick up and dispose of the dead birds. It was brought up before it was built to use a less reflective more friendly glass, but they declined, would have added to the ost of the glass about 10-15%...
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Old 01-14-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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OTOH-- It's not like glass buildings and wind mills are roaming around the country in large gangs, hunting down birds....Land mines left behind after a war are only dangerous to the locals using those roads....What portion of natural habitat is taken up by the buiildings & installations in question?

Keep things in perspective.
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