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Old 07-07-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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Oh like they aren't already? The church I used to go to had many local politicians making appearances around election time.
You went to a weird church.

The fact is that most churches are not overly political, partly because most churches have both Democrats and Republicans - and getting overly political is inevitably going to offend a fair number of their members.

But the bottom line is that churches would be the LEAST hurt if the government decided to pull their tax-exempt status.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
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Someone tell the Mormon church.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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Someone tell the Mormon church.
Tell them what?
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
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Tell them to stop getting involved politically.

Time Magazine By DAVID VAN BIEMA Monday, Jun. 22, 2009

The passage of Prop 8 was the church's latest display of its power: individual Mormons contributed half of the proposition's $40 million war chest despite constituting only 2% of California's population. LDS spokesman Michael Otterson says, "This is a moment of emergence."
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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Tell them to stop getting involved politically.

Time Magazine By DAVID VAN BIEMA Monday, Jun. 22, 2009

The passage of Prop 8 was the church's latest display of its power: individual Mormons contributed half of the proposition's $40 million war chest despite constituting only 2% of California's population. LDS spokesman Michael Otterson says, "This is a moment of emergence."
Ummm... That's ONE denomination. Hardly representative of all churches.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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Why is this a big deal? I know of some counselors who will not take certain problems or clients if they do not feel they can help them. For instance, some cannot deal with mother problems so a man who goes in who is abnormally attached to his mother and cannot detach would not be helped by a counselor who hates and does not want to deal with those kinds of problems. Don't ask me why the counselor is that way but they are all human first you know.

Also, if you think Catholic Charities discriminate against gays then you do not know about all they do for gays with AIDS. Our parish priest spent his summer ministering to gays in the hospital. He was paid only a stipend like all priests are.

One gay man liked him so much he willed his house to him. The priest gave it to his family after the man's death. Sad stories but the religious are there to help all kinds of problems, yes, even AIDS problems.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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The Mormon church was not the only one involved. The Roman Catholic church also contributed significant funds. Both were just standing up for something they believed in.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
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All I want is freedom from religion.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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Why is this a big deal? I know of some counselors who will not take certain problems or clients if they do not feel they can help them. For instance, some cannot deal with mother problems so a man who goes in who is abnormally attached to his mother and cannot detach would not be helped by a counselor who hates and does not want to deal with those kinds of problems. Don't ask me why the counselor is that way but they are all human first you know.

Also, if you think Catholic Charities discriminate against gays then you do not know about all they do for gays with AIDS. Our parish priest spent his summer ministering to gays in the hospital. He was paid only a stipend like all priests are.

One gay man liked him so much he willed his house to him. The priest gave it to his family after the man's death. Sad stories but the religious are there to help all kinds of problems, yes, even AIDS problems.
Props to your priest but boo on Catholicisms handling of AIDS overall. I don't see how you can think that people in Africa using condoms is a sin and then say you're doing great work to help stopping AIDS.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
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YouTube - Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen (R) says Earth is 6,000 years old.


6,000 year old Earth. Too funny. Who out there will claim this idea?
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