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Old 04-24-2020, 12:04 AM
 
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My middle aged kids are all laid off but don’t want to die for their jobs.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:02 AM
 
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Hey, it's you that quit your state-funded/district job. Not me!

Although, I am not in a state retirement plan, but a large county-funded one (LACERA). We do fine!
So.... ignorant?
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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So.... ignorant?
So, are you going to re-register as a Republican now since you're no longer in the teacher's union?
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Henderson
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Or it may be that immunity is for good? You don't know, and the vast majority of Americans don't have the luxury of putting their lives on hold indefinitely like many in the 65-and-older crowd who are retired. If you have bothered to look at the data, you know who the at-risk population is, 65 and over plus those with underlying health conditions. To claim anything else is being disingenuous. Policy needs to be made based on what the data is telling us, not that we need to appease the 65-and-over crowd.

By the way, are you in the 65-and-over crowd and retired? If not, have you lost your job? Have you felt any impact from this ridiculous lockdown?
Sure, I have felt the impact. My net worth has been reduced by a quarter and I can’t go the the casinos anymore. As a Boomer I’m concerned about this new virus making friends with me.

But all these people who are currently unemployed are getting unemployment benefits, aren’t they?

The reality is that we really don’t know that much about this virus and all the data is subject to further review.
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Old 04-24-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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So, are you going to re-register as a republican now since you're no longer in the teacher's union?
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Old 04-24-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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You can watch what is happening in Georgia, plenty of business will not open despite the Gov's re opening.

A large percentage of the population will not shop at the businesses that do open, because it is not safe yet. That will just make the situation on the businesses lose money faster. I think you will get a spike in cases, and then you will have to shut everything down again. You have people going on unemployment, coming off it, going on it...... and that just causes more chaos in the processing, and more delays getting money to residents.

I find it interesting that the US numbers seem to be trending back up, too early to tell though.

Tourist destinations have a hard decision, because it doesn't matter how your city or state is doing, you are going to import the virus, and Vegas is worse because it is primarily an "indoor" tourist destination, not a Lake or camping.
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Old 04-24-2020, 11:52 AM
 
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You can watch what is happening in Georgia, plenty of business will not open despite the Gov's re opening.

A large percentage of the population will not shop at the businesses that do open, because it is not safe yet. That will just make the situation on the businesses lose money faster. I think you will get a spike in cases, and then you will have to shut everything down again. You have people going on unemployment, coming off it, going on it...... and that just causes more chaos in the processing, and more delays getting money to residents.

I find it interesting that the US numbers seem to be trending back up, too early to tell though.

Tourist destinations have a hard decision, because it doesn't matter how your city or state is doing, you are going to import the virus, and Vegas is worse because it is primarily an "indoor" tourist destination, not a Lake or camping.
I'm glad to see more great insights from someone who does not appear to live here, and those insights are so authoritative. Please provide your data source for cases trending back up.

I'm sure there will be a number of businesses which will reopen in Georgia and other states in the South, and a large percentage of people who are not at high risk, which is the majority of the population, will venture out of their homes and exercise common sense as they patronize those businesses.

Finally, I beg to differ with you regarding your assessment of Las Vegas and Nevada. There is a wealth of outdoor activities in the area, all of which have been effectively shut down by our "experts" because apparently being outside is bad for one's health. Believe it or not, many people, locals and tourists alike, come to Las Vegas for all of the nearby national and state parks. Also, if you check a map, the largest reservoir in terms of water capacity, Lake Mead, is right next door to the Las Vegas metropolitan area.

Please do all of us a favor, and post your biased, uninformed, and unsourced information on the forum for your own state.

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Old 04-24-2020, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I'm glad to see more great insights from someone who does not appear to live here, and those insights are so authoritative. Why don't you share with us in what part of the United States you live? Also, please provide your data source for cases trending back up.

I'm sure there will be a number of businesses which will reopen in Georgia and other states in the South, and a large percentage of people who are not at high risk, which is the majority of the population, will venture out of their homes and exercise common sense as they patronize those businesses.

Finally, I beg to differ with you regarding your assessment of Las Vegas and Nevada. There is a wealth of outdoor activities in the area, all of which have been effectively shut down by our "experts" because apparently being outside is bad for one's health. Believe it or not, many people, locals and tourists alike, come to Las Vegas for all of the nearby national and state parks. Also, if you check a map, the largest reservoir in terms of water capacity, Lake Mead, is right next door to the Las Vegas metropolitan area.

Please do all of us a favor, and post your biased, uninformed, and unsourced information on the forum for your own state.

I live in Nevada, just never changed my info. I've served on a State level pandemic planning committee, and while I am no expert, I did work with a lot who were.

I live in Central Nevada.

US numbers trending up are on all the sites (if you can call 2 days a trend, but it is not down), but I primarily use World O Meters.

Yes, Las Vegas has a lot of out door activities, but the main moolah comes from gambling and the like, primarily in door things are the budget bread and butter (I would imagine. I have not specifically looked up gambling revenue vs parks, but I think that is a safe assumption.)

I am all for opening outdoor venues, thanks for asking. I think that is a reasonable activity if people aren't stupid (for example Phoenix who left outdoor trails open and then people literally packed on to them, feet from each other, no protection, so they had to be closed).

AND, I've lived here long enough to know you can go out hiking, driving, and fishing in plenty of areas. We have spent many a day in the past couple months out exploring, hiking, 4 wheel driving, exploring mines and we have seen people out on various lakes fishing. There are so many things to go out to do even without parks being officially open.

I hope you feel better now.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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Sure, I have felt the impact. My net worth has been reduced by a quarter and I can’t go the the casinos anymore. As a Boomer I’m concerned about this new virus making friends with me.

But all these people who are currently unemployed are getting unemployment benefits, aren’t they?

The reality is that we really don’t know that much about this virus and all the data is subject to further review.
Your arrogance towards those who have lost their employment is unbelievable. Perhaps, you can suggest that the unemployed can eat cake as well while getting their unemployment benefits. Simply giving people a handout and effectively locking them in their homes without human interaction is not an acceptable substitute for the dignity that comes with being gainfully employed. It also gives no consideration that humans are social creatures who need to be able to interact with other humans. I even despise the term social distancing; it's an insidious term only academics and bureaucrats could devise. Our household uses the term physical distancing as we have no desire to be socially distant from others.

We have more than enough data at this point to know that people in your age group are in the high-risk demographic especially in southern Nevada where approximately 93% of the fatalities were among those 50 and older. You are the ones who can continue to choose to self-isolate at home if you want, or you can choose to take the risk. It is the height of insanity to continue to lock up people under the age of 50, especially children, and ruin their lives when their risk is extremely low. Young people, many with families, have had their careers and finances destroyed. Children have had their education interrupted without any regard to the impact that will have on their future. This whole thing has been primarily about protecting the boomers without any regard for the rest of the population.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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You can watch what is happening in Georgia, plenty of business will not open despite the Gov's re opening.

A large percentage of the population will not shop at the businesses that do open, because it is not safe yet. That will just make the situation on the businesses lose money faster. I think you will get a spike in cases, and then you will have to shut everything down again. You have people going on unemployment, coming off it, going on it...... and that just causes more chaos in the processing, and more delays getting money to residents.

I find it interesting that the US numbers seem to be trending back up, too early to tell though.

Tourist destinations have a hard decision, because it doesn't matter how your city or state is doing, you are going to import the virus, and Vegas is worse because it is primarily an "indoor" tourist destination, not a Lake or camping.
Are you a business owner?

Nothing makes a business lose money faster than zero revenue.

Newest data out showing 20% of NYC already has antibodies... this thing has been around for a while.

The further we get into this shutdown the worse it looks for the Liberals.
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