For second year in a row Nevada ranked most dangerous state! (Las Vegas: casino, live in)

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by greatbasinguide

Ole Capt state Port Orange had low crime,

Statistics are statistically meaningless. North Las Vegas has high Crime, Neil Road and Sun Valley in Reno have high crime, Austin doesn't.

The chances of you dying from cancer are far greater than of you being a victim of violent crime, unless you are a black male 15 to 25.

Don't worry, be happy etc.

Statistics are not statistically meaningless. They govern certain areas of science. Eisenberg may have been here. That is statistical.

This one intrigues me. It might even be true. But I would like to see a source for the statistic.

[greatbasinguide]

That was a piece of humor.

Were you curious about black male death rates? Without excessive googling here is some data, Black males are 15-24 are 9.84 times more likely to be murdered than whites of the same age. The leading cause of death in that group is murder while in white males same age group it is accidents, both auto and dumb, like jumpin off cliffs into shallow water.

Here are more interesting numbers.
White female, you have 1 in a thousand chance of being a victim of violent crime White male, less than 2 in a thousand
Hispanic male 17 in a thousand
Black male 13 in a thousand


your chance of getting cancer 1 in 2

[hollywood722]

RWF,

I don't have a problem with the data. I live it every day. I...like you am a transplant from the north (BUFFALO). Compared with Detroit we didn't have nearly the crime rate you had. As a matter of fact we have a suburb of Buffalo "Amherst" that has been ranked 1 in cities per 100,000 and over numerous times in the past 2 decades.

Looking at the list posted you can see Fort Myers..southwest...Tampa central west, Orlando, central, Cocoa Beach, Daytona, and others central east, West Palm, Pompano, south...and then of course Miami. Not only is Miami on it but Homestead, Miami Gardens and pretty much every other outlying area surrounding Miami. All of these cities and dozens more are in the top 100. I would say the whole state is pretty much covered. Florida is not filled with pockets of crime. It has sporadic pockets of safe!!!!! You live here so you know what I'm talking about. You can drive 4 blocks and it goes like this...first block..ghetto..high crime rate, next block brand new condos..gated of course!!! Next block older houses crime rate still high. The block after that back into the ghetto and crime rate spikes. Ive never seen anything like it in my life. I am a Sociology major so I spent four years listening to Urban inner circle "red light distract" concentric circles and urban sprawl. That doesn't happen in FL. The real estate moguls and developers say forget the crime index, don't bother with neighborhood research...we see a plot of land...lets build!!!! We have 600,000 dollar condos going up in neighborhoods at this very moment...they are being built in areas where as soon as they drive off there property they are at risk. Does that make sense to you????
I agree with the earlier post that if you take away LV and Reno the rest of the state is relatively low in crime. In Florida there is no place to run......except your gated condo and your homeowners association.

NV sounds pretty nice in comparison....just my take

[RedWingsFan]

Originally Posted by hollywood722

I agree with the earlier post that if you take away LV and Reno the rest of the state is relatively low in crime.

Uh, yeah! That's taking a HUGE chunk of the population. Of course it would become pretty low in crime. The same can be said in any other state... remove the highest population cities and you will take away most of the crime. Ya think?

[Quadmonkey]

Originally Posted by RedWingsFan

Uh, yeah! That's taking a HUGE chunk of the population. Of course it would become pretty low in crime. The same can be said in any other state... remove the highest population cities and you will take away most of the crime. Ya think?

You cannot categorize Nevada based on Vegas and Reno, which is where I have the problem with this whole thing. Las Vegas is almost in CA, AZ, UT... take your pick (I say CA) and Reno is dang near in CA. So that basically leaves the whole entire rest of the state subject to what happens in these two cities, which is NOT like the states in the Eastern US. Saying that removing Vegas and Reno is like removing all the major cities in the other states is just nuts. Those are the only two major cities we have, and yes of course we are left with nothing but small towns, extremely seperated by mileage. Where in Florida can you see a sign on a highway that says "Next gas 107 miles"? I lived in Florida for two years, and saw the only violent crime I have ever seen in my life. I grew up in small town Nevada, lived in Orlando for two years, upstate NY for 6 months, and in the Seattle area for over 4 years, and FL was the only place where I witnessed a violent crime.
Living in Orlando and driving around exploring, all I saw was town after town, same with the cities. Whether they are suburbs or not, it matters not. Crime spreads. The same applies to upstate NY, and the Seattle area. From Bellingham, WA down through Seattle, all the way to Tacoma, around the Puget Sound, up to Bremerton is one big city in my eyes.
My point being, nowhere is as open as NV in the Continental US, and we are constantly judged by what happens in Clark County. If you look at a map... I mean LOOK at it and compare the size of other states overlayed on the map of Nevada. The county I live in is about the same size as New Jersey, but we have about 10,000 people in the county as compared to how many in NJ? I am sure the crime rate here is comparable to NJ.
Now to refute.
I am sure you will fall back to the same thing you have said over and over, contact the people that did the survey if you don't agree with the results.
Before you go looking up crimes in Ely/White Pine County, we have the state's Max prison, so we are going to have a LOT of violent crimes for here. Mostly due to Hispanic gang hits,but some black hits, and white boy hits.
Mostly gangs that came into NV FROM Cali.

So everyday I go to work, with my doors unlocked, my windows open, and when I get to work my truck windows are open, doors unlocked. Never once a problem here in rural NV. Well once I had my snow shovel stolen off my front porch, but that is the worst that has ever happened.

So, NV is quite the safe place to live, VERY safe if you don't live in one of the two "huge" (insert sarcasm) cities. I have a lot of friends that live down in Vegas, and not a one of them has ever been a victim of a violent crime. I think all the violent crime data is coming from the Hispanic's battling each other, since the NV prison system is filled with them.

[fromthebay]

Originally Posted by olecapt

You are on to part of it. Basically Nevada is the third most urban area in the US...and what you see is that urban areas have higher crime rates than suburban and rural areas. But we have very small non-urban population. The other reason is that MQ adds auto theft to the violent crime numbers and LV is the champion at the moment in auto theft. There is however no particular reason that auto theft has become a violent crime except MQ need to differentiate itself from the federal crime statistics.

In truth both LV and Reno Sparks are middle of the pack on crime when compared to similar cities. Henderson is very good and NLV slightly worse than Vegas.

RWF knows all this but publishes this BS as part of her ongoing knock Nevada and Las Vegas campaign.

Las Vegas is a **** hole.... In my opinion.... if it wasnt for the casinos and resorts and gmabling there'd be no reason for it...

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by fromthebay

Las Vegas is a **** hole.... In my opinion.... if it wasnt for the casinos and resorts and gmabling there'd be no reason for it...

Of course there is. Las Vegas was there before all that. It would likely be a lot smaller but that would be allright too.

And if it all the entertainment and gambling and sex et al went away Las Vegas would still be there.

Now tell us how you developed this strange fixation on Las Vegas. Lose big?
Wife divorced you here? You had a bad sexual experience here?

Let it hang out...maybe we can find you a way to peace...

[sheriff]

Originally Posted by fromthebay

Las Vegas is a **** hole.... In my opinion.... if it wasnt for the casinos and resorts and gmabling there'd be no reason for it...

Yes, if they were to give the world an enema, LV is where they would stick the hose.

[Woof_]

I'll preface my comment by saying I am about to move to Las Vegas. Got a new job and will be relocating there. I have been reading this forum for months just to get as much info as I can on the area.


I have to say that it is amazing that some people are so darned negative.

There is good and bad in any location. How it works for you is what you make of it. A city isn't responsible for your unhappiness, you are. You can be happy anywhere if you choose to.

RWF. You left Vegas for Daytona Fl because you wanted a better place to raise your kids? That was your choice? If I lived in a big "dangerous " city and was deciding where to move to raise my children I certainly would have picked someplace other than Florida, but thats just me.

After having read many many of your posts here I have to ask, what awful thing happened in NV to make you hate it so? Just curious.

[PinkString]

Originally Posted by Woof_

I'll preface my comment by saying I am about to move to Las Vegas. Got a new job and will be relocating there. I have been reading this forum for months just to get as much info as I can on the area.


I have to say that it is amazing that some people are so darned negative.

There is good and bad in any location. How it works for you is what you make of it. A city isn't responsible for your unhappiness, you are. You can be happy anywhere if you choose to.

RWF. You left Vegas for Daytona Fl because you wanted a better place to raise your kids? That was your choice? If I lived in a big "dangerous " city and was deciding where to move to raise my children I certainly would have picked someplace other than Florida, but thats just me.

After having read many many of your posts here I have to ask, what awful thing happened in NV to make you hate it so? Just curious.

Very good post Woof. Forums like these seem to bring out the negative people. It's not the place, it's the person is so true. Some people just cannot let go. They had a bad experience, lived in a bad area, so they come back and argue forever that they are right and the whole world is wrong. lol
The other million or so people live here and do just fine.