11-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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Just tell him some offers but not in the amount i'm looking to sell for and i'll leave it at that."
Ok, thank you. I said what you told me to say in so many words. We'll see if he gets the message.
11-27-2007, 05:41 PM
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Ok, thank you. I said what you told me to say in so many words. We'll see if he gets the message.
Let's hope he does anyways. If he keeps bugging you, i'd just say...
"I need to know if you want to make an offer or not because somebody else behind you is willing to make an offer and i'm waiting on your response first".
It's all in the way you choose your words. It's not a lie because obviously somebody is going to come along after him and make an offer. Yeah it may not be tomorrow or next week but hey, somebody will be along with one eventually right?
11-27-2007, 06:05 PM
Location: Madbury, New Hampshire
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So this guy is being persistent. I had emailed him back and told him we have reduced our home since they had come out to see it in Sept and reduced it 20k since putting it up for sale. I said we would welcome their offer. I heard back, and once again he is asking how many offers we've had and what they were. I don't want to respond in such a way to scare him off, but I also do not want to divulge private information. Any suggestions?
At least he sounds keen. You should do what you can to get him to make an offer. Even if it is too low you can counter. I'm sure you heard this a thousand times though: with the market as it is, sellers need to be prepared to accept low offers. The market is going to drop for another 6-12+ months - longer if we get into an official recession.
11-28-2007, 04:36 AM
Location: S.E. US
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It's a psychological game.
Once he makes an offer, he has stepped over the line and becomes a prospective buyer. He's "in the game" and subconsicously he already feels that the house is his...it's within reach, so to say...and if he really wants it, he's now in the negotiating stage. It's only a slight shift, but it's to your advantage to get him into that state of mind. One has to be really hard-nosed to be willing to walk away; I don't think most people find that easy to do.
11-28-2007, 05:42 AM
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Well he made an offer, which literally made me laugh. Our home is priced competatively for the market and what similar homes are going for in our area. His offer was 89,900 below our asking price.
Now what? I want to say, "are you kidding?," but unfortunately I know he's not.
Would it be unreasonable to email back and say something like this, "With all due repsect, when you're ready to make a serious offer we would be glad to try work something out."
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11-28-2007, 05:47 AM
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I don't see what is rude about it.
11-28-2007, 06:41 AM
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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I've started so many posts on this thread, and then delete them. It's killing me to sit and watch this play out, unfortunately I can't say anything without putting my license at stake
Does the company who put your house on MLS offer guidance in negotiations?
I hope this is allowed:
This is a current thread on the Real Estate area of the forum, reminded me of this situation:
//www.city-data.com/forum/real-...r-lowball.html
Last edited by Valerie C; 11-28-2007 at 07:06 AM ..
Reason: added the CD link to Real Estate thread
11-28-2007, 07:17 AM
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Val, "Does the company who put your house on MLS offer guidance in negotiations?" This buyer is not someone who came thru an agent so I doubt the MLS company would help in negotiations.
11-28-2007, 07:28 AM
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Well he made an offer, which literally made me laugh. Our home is priced competatively for the market and what similar homes are going for in our area. His offer was 89,900 below our asking price.
Now what? I want to say, "are you kidding?," but unfortunately I know he's not.
Would it be unreasonable to email back and say something like this, "With all due repsect, when you're ready to make a serious offer we would be glad to try work something out."
wow that is a low offer. he knows your asking price right?
A simple "I can't even consider that offer" will simply do i think especially if he knows what your asking. He can do his research if he really wants to get nosey about the prices around you.
11-28-2007, 09:16 AM
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I say if you have room to negotiate down then go down a little (not the floor of what you will accept). Show him that you would like to work with him but also show him that you are not naive and that his offer is way off. This way he may come back a little closer.
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Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
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Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Once he makes an offer, he has stepped over the line and becomes a prospective buyer. He's "in the game" and subconsicously he already feels that the house is his...it's within reach, so to say...and if he really wants it, he's now in the negotiating stage. It's only a slight shift, but it's to your advantage to get him into that state of mind. One has to be really hard-nosed to be willing to walk away; I don't think most people find that easy to do.
Now what? I want to say, "are you kidding?," but unfortunately I know he's not.
