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Old 09-08-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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The Right Wing politics have driven taxes to the towns with their very regressive property tax base. The really wealthy in NH have kept out any hint of, except for the genius dividends and interest tax on the retired folk, and sales taxes on our tourist guests, a general, let alone high deductible, income tax that might have them paying their fair share. We are also "right to work" for as little as they can pay state.

So New Hampshire is an expensive place for people working for a living and a paradise for the wealthy.
Yeah the "right to work" also means employers potentially working the workers many more hours for no additional compensation or right to fire for a feeble reason(s).

A shame that the pay doesn't catch up to the COL like many other "right to work" states like SC.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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Pay in SC is pretty low. My family lives there and carved out a living just like most people here...by being frugal and practical.
OTH, I was just talking to a coworker who said she took an $8/hr pay cut when she left her job in MA and took one in NH. She said that when she crunched the numbers, with the income tax MA was hitting her with, it was really only a $2/hr pay cut. She had to commute there, so she actually was breaking even. New England is not cheap though, but you can make a living here.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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I was just talking to a coworker who said she took an $8/hr pay cut when she left her job in MA and took one in NH. She said that when she crunched the numbers, with the income tax MA was hitting her with, it was really only a $2/hr pay cut. She had to commute there, so she actually was breaking even.
Mass income tax is 5.25%. She must be doing quite well (like $249,000/yr) to save $6/hr ($12,480/yr) at 5.25%.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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Pay in SC is pretty low. My family lives there and carved out a living just like most people here...by being frugal and practical.
OTH, I was just talking to a coworker who said she took an $8/hr pay cut when she left her job in MA and took one in NH. She said that when she crunched the numbers, with the income tax MA was hitting her with, it was really only a $2/hr pay cut. She had to commute there, so she actually was breaking even. New England is not cheap though, but you can make a living here.
Yeah SC pay scale is pretty low as I was researching that state for my relocation but for obvious reasons fizzled out fast.

NE is not cheap but compared to NJ?............................, lol!
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Thumbs down Livefree (of forced dues payment) or die!

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Yeah the "right to work" also means employers potentially working the workers many more hours for no additional compensation or right to fire for a feeble reason(s). A shame that the pay doesn't catch up to the COL like many other "right to work" states like SC.
I've worked in a "union shop" in a state with no "right to work" law, and I'm much happier here, where I can't be forced to join a union, nor forced to pay union dues as a non-member.

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The Right Wing politics have driven taxes to the towns with their very regressive property tax base. The really wealthy in NH have kept out any hint of, except for the genius dividends and interest tax on the retired folk, and sales taxes on our tourist guests, a general, let alone high deductible, income tax that might have them paying their fair share. We are also "right to work" for as little as they can pay state.

So New Hampshire is an expensive place for people working for a living and a paradise for the wealthy.
Not really a paradise for the wealthy. Wealth means income from dividends and interest, so you get hit by that "genius" 5% tax, bringing your tax situation close to MA's general income tax.

Nobody is forcing you to live in a town with unreasonably high valuations or rates. But without "right to work", I can be forced to join/pay a union unless I want to choose a different career entirely.
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Mass income tax is 5.25%. She must be doing quite well (like $249,000/yr) to save $6/hr ($12,480/yr) at 5.25%.
Yeah, you're right. The income tax probably only ate into about $2/hr because she definitely wasn't making $249K ! Maybe she had added in parking fees or other hidden fees that she wasn't disclosing to me. Either way, I'd be willing to take a pay cut to not have to deal with the Boston area traffic.

I'd be ok with right to work states if the federal government didn't require unions to represent employees who weren't paying dues to the same extent that they represent dues paying members. I've worked in both union and non-union facilities. So far I made a fair amount more money in the union facilities and the amount I paid in dues didn't even begin to make a dent in the difference in pay. I don't really like being told what to do though, so I can see the issues with the closed shop.
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