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Correct me if I’m wrong, but property taxes are not avoidable, right? Sure you could not be a property owner, but we all know when renting that’s factored in by the landlord so property tax increases lead to rent in increases anyways. So when you buy your home regardless what happens going forward (job loss, financial hardship) you still owe property taxes.
However if your property taxes got lowered and replaced with alternative revenue sources, those would be controllable. Get laid off, retire...lower / no income tax. Don’t make big purchases, avoid sales tax. Yet, you all love having it all tied up in property taxes.
Don’t tell me it cannot be done, look at TN, low property tax, no income tax. The schools are terrible, and that’s the trade off. Perhaps having a different tax would actually help you.
......Don’t tell me it cannot be done, look at TN, low property tax, no income tax. The schools are terrible, and that’s the trade off. Perhaps having a different tax would actually help you.
TN is no different than any other state.
Schools in predominately white collar areas are very good as those parents value education. Farragut and Maryville in East TN come to mind.
Schools in poorer rural and urban areas where parents are inattentive to their children's academic lives are not.
The most expensive schools in NJ, where we moved from, are some of the worst in the US.
Tennessee's total state+local tax burden is just slightly lower than ours
Sometimes not be avoidable(evadable) is a good thing.
The rich can avoid paying sales and use tax, and can move money around to keep wealth and income out of the eyes and borders of the USA, but rarely are they willing to live in a tiny shack on a tiny lot just to evade taxation.
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Originally Posted by Reilly1017
Don’t tell me it cannot be done, look at TN, low property tax, no income tax. The schools are terrible, and that’s the trade off. Perhaps having a different tax would actually help you.
OTOH, no state has ever successfully achieved a long term reduction in property taxes by adding new "broad-based" revenue collection. Every time it has been attempted, the total state+local tax burden has increased and eventually property tax creeps up to, or beyond, where it was before the "reform".
The average spending per student in Tennessee is about half what New Hampshire spends per student.
Schools in predominately white collar areas are very good as those parents value education. Farragut and Maryville in East TN come to mind.
Schools in poorer rural and urban areas where parents are inattentive to their children's academic lives are not.
It does come down to the parents. There are 36 hours of school time in a week, how much individual attention can a teacher give to each student? Not much, nowhere near enough if they don't understand their math.
It's up to the parents, everywhere. They demonstrate they value education through their actions, and help their kids when they need it, or they don't. For most kids that drives the outcome. There will always be outliers on the high and low side, but they are outliers.
However if your property taxes got lowered and replaced with alternative revenue sources, those would be controllable. Get laid off, retire...lower / no income tax.
Until spending is brought under control, any discussion of alternative means of taxing is just debating how to apportion the over taxation. If overspending is ended, everyone will get to pay less in taxes all the time, not just when they're laid off or retire.
Any discussion of raising or changing taxes should always begin with a justification of why the current taxes collected are being well spent, and specifically what the extra money from the proposed tax increase will be used for.
Actually what is disgusting is people thinking that they are entitled to other people's money in order to pay for their own responsibilities.
Entitled? Not what I said
I was specifically talking about a child that is born into unfortunate circumstances with special needs. Well F that 7 year old then for wanting to suck on the governments teet (your $ that they feel entitled to). Man, what a selfish kid!
Actually what is disgusting is people thinking that they are entitled to other people's money in order to pay for their own responsibilities.
The federal government justifies this theft from a particular set of producers via affirmative action and other entitlement programs. The media/Hollywood and big education encourage it. The transfer of wealth has been ongoing for generations. The benefactors will never stop it; big daddy government rewards them.
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