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Mainstream media is as much to blame as Johns Hopkins, Bill Gates, George Soros, the CDC, FDA and NIH. If HC had won the election - no one would have heard about SARS-CV19. That's the bottom line.
Despite extraordinary efforts, in less than 6 months, we've had 185,000 Americans killed. Scientists, doctors and public health officials around the world are grappling with the pandemic. Yet you still hear that it's "just a cold"... "all a conspiracy being pushed by George Soros", .."people die all the time, why is this a big deal", etc. I give up.
The people screaming the aforementioned are actually the fake news generators by making false claims to rile up the easily influenced.
Denying the obvious is a problem, but I am more shocked to see those same people place their entire family at risk of infection. I see them at stores and wherever without a mask, even for their children. These people are placing their families at risk to prove a point. That logic is completely flawed!
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Counts of deaths in recent weeks compared with historical trend
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Originally Posted by OutdoorLover
Despite extraordinary efforts, in less than 6 months, we've had 185,000 Americans killed. Scientists, doctors and public health officials around the world are grappling with the pandemic. Yet you still hear that it's "just a cold"... "all a conspiracy being pushed by George Soros", .."people die all the time, why is this a big deal", etc. I give up.
So the shut downs didn't prevent anything, they just delayed the cases that would have occurred earlier
Again - that was exactly the purpose. There is no separation between "lockdowns" and "flatten the curve" - they're the very same thing, along with masks and all the rest.
Not sure why you're making a distinction - there isn't one - in Ohio, we framed "lockdown" as "flatten the curve" the entire time - masks only recently entered the discussion.
And when the cases got close to 0 but wouldn't go all the way to 0 no matter how long they waited
Nope. No one thought it would be zero - the entire point was to take it "close to 0" - not all the way. Once it got "close to zero" then Mission Accomplished. Nothing's changed - it has always been defined this way.
So the shut downs didn't prevent anything, they just delayed the cases that would have occurred earlier
Again - that was exactly the purpose. There is no separation between "lockdowns" and "flatten the curve" - they're the very same thing, along with masks and all the rest.
Not sure why you're making a distinction - there isn't one - in Ohio, we framed "lockdown" as "flatten the curve" the entire time - masks only recently entered the discussion.
And when the cases got close to 0 but wouldn't go all the way to 0 no matter how long they waited
Nope. No one thought it would be zero - the entire point was to take it "close to 0" - not all the way. Once it got "close to zero" then Mission Accomplished. Nothing's changed - it has always been defined this way.
And what is the purpose of taking it close to 0, then opening up and letting it go much higher than it was prior to the lock downs? Leaving lock downs in place for months is not flattening the curve. Flat means just that, flat, not near 0. Not rising, so hospitals aren't overwhelmed.
I am a scientist, who works at a drug company, and one of my duties is reviewing the Covid-19 scientific literature. I am fairly well informed about it, far more than most people. It's brutal. It's not the same as a cold or a flu - as I said, we could have 10x or more the mortality from Covid-19 if we treated it like a cold or a flu. I think we're doing the right thing. Masks and social distancing have saved many lives...they are related to, but not quite the same thing as "shutdowns". Had we imposed mask wearing and 6-foot+ social distancing from the start, and yes, actual shutdowns where you couldn't do the former, earlier - say in early March - the earlier the better really, then we likely would have had a far smaller problem, and wouldn't have to do so much now.
Good analysis. Many people are afraid of the unknown around COVID, and subconsciously to quell those fears, they like to think of it as the flu. The media doesn't make things better because of the constant headlines and the stories of all the people in the ICU on ventilators for months fighting to survive COVID.
Because of this fear people are looking for ways to downplay COVID for peace of mind. Unfortunately, your assessment is correct. COVID is in another league than the flu. The flu has not cause the kind of death or even crowding of ICUs/hospitals that COVID has.
No matter how much we want to spin it and make it disappear, COVID is much more lethal than the flu, and it's not even close.
Many in northern New England have become pretty complacent about this disease, but we're seeing what can happen without social distancing and mask usage.
The CDC has quietly revised it's data and is now claiming that only 6% of the deaths reported due to COVID 19 were actually caused by the virus itself.
Wonder how many of these people were hospitalized. Probably less than 1%. Wearing a mask and social distancing makes sense. Destroying the economy doesn't. Remember that when your property tax bills show up over the next few cycles...
So you haven't noticed Eduardo Rodriguez missing from the Red Sox starting rotation this season?
There are 6 million known US cases, what percentage of those have ongoing problems 60 days after they're no longer contagious? 26 million in the world, same question.
No anecdotes or cherry picked numbers, please. Only verified numbers, complete with source data.
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Counts of deaths in recent weeks compared with historical trend
