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And - as if that wasn't enough - these people are all gun nuts! You see people with pistols strapped to their hips walking around!
I am curious about this
I have a concealed permit and the law says that when carrying a handgun then that handgun has to be concealed, hence the word concealed .
I can not go into shopping markets, shops , malls, (not that I go in those places)walk through the park etc while my handgun is in plain view , it has to be under a coat, jersey etc
Now I have never seen anyone at all carrying in open view and if the police did then they would be in violation of their permit and open to prosecution.
so the questions are.
Have I just not got the law right and have I been walking around blindly for some time or has the OP just , well lets say mistaken what she thinks she saw or exaggerated.
Also there is a liberal state next door and guess what , VT has probably the most relaxed laws with guns and carrying them.
Anyway I feel for the OP because Barry even with his far left views has said since he got the nomination he now supports guns /the second amendment (mmmmm) and we know.McCain does so nothing will change soon except maybe more people carrying.
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You must not know a lot about NH's gun laws. I did some research into this after I saw these nuts walking around with guns on their hips. Apparently it is legal for them to do so! Even if you call the police, the police can't do anything about it. It is called "open carriage" or something like that and anybody can do it.
I must say that this was something I had not heard of before coming here. In california we have common sense gun control and guns are not just handed out the way they are in NH. It is quite shocking that something like this is allowed to go on.
But nobody seems to care. I contacted my state reps and senator but nobody gave much of a damn about this.
I just cannot understand this tolerance of violent weapons. It is not normal and there needs to be a law against it.
You must not know a lot about NH's gun laws. I did some research into this after I saw these nuts walking around with guns on their hips. Apparently it is legal for them to do so! Even if you call the police, the police can't do anything about it. It is called "open carriage" or something like that and anybody can do it.
I must say that this was something I had not heard of before coming here. In california we have common sense gun control and guns are not just handed out the way they are in NH. It is quite shocking that something like this is allowed to go on.
But nobody seems to care. I contacted my state reps and senator but nobody gave much of a damn about this.
I just cannot understand this tolerance of violent weapons. It is not normal and there needs to be a law against it.
But yet NH is consistently ranked as one of the safest states in the nation. No there does not need to be a law against it. People here on both sides of the aisle take their 2nd ammendment very seriously.
Jayne, I'm truly sorry that you had a miserable year in New Hampshire. I'm not sure which state you thought you were moving to, but it seems that before you moved your family 3,000 miles across the country, you might have done some research to find that New Hampshire gets snow. Some years, lots of it Other years, not so much. Even the natives were sick of the damn stuff by the end of last winter, which on the calendar was March, but my backyard still had snow into the beginning of May. Congratulations--now you have bragging rights on living through record-shattering snow in New Hampshire...
And yes, people in New Hampshire have the right to carry guns. Openly, if they so chose. This isn't a secret. Surprise--the criminals and drug dealers aren't the only ones who may be carrying a gun. God help the poor SOB who breaks into a typical New Hampshire home to find that the homeowner is ready to defend their home and family. By the time the cops arrive, many times the criminal has been disarmed. Damn that 2nd Amendment to the Constitution... What could they have been thinking?? Of course only the CRIMINALS should carry guns.... Oh wait--they already do!
And yes, people here hunt. Sometimes (gasp) even the women! Can you believe it?? The fact that every November, deer season opens is rather well known. Again, something you neglected to ask about when you moved 3,000 miles. I'm sorry if a dead deer offended you or may have frightened your children. Unless you're a vegan, all meat has to come from somewhere. While many people prefer for their dead animal flesh to be grown in farm-factories, slaughtered in cruel techniques and then neatly carved up into family-size portions, wrapped in plastic and clean white styrofoam (good for the environment) where they can take it home. No blood on their hands! But yeah, I see what you mean--that vicious monster (the hunter, I mean) should have at least wiped the blood off the poor thing's muzzle.
You mention property taxes. Yes, property taxes are a sad fact of life here in New Hampshire, which I can't argue with. However, the tax rate of every town is listed on its website, or on the state site. And every listing on the MLS and realtor.com has both the tax rate AND the tax bill for the previous year. How could you NOT have been aware of our taxes before you moved across the country to live here? With no income tax and no sales tax, did you think that money simply fell from the sky to pay for police, fire, schools, city and town officials? Money has to come from somewhere, unfortunately.
I wish you all the best, and hope that when you return to California, it's the utopia that you are looking for
Valerie, I thank you for your response as you raise a lot of good points. However, I must respectfully disagree on the issue of violence toward animals or "hunting" as you call it. There is simply no need for it in this day and age when there are veggie alternatives for protein needs. This barbarity needs to be stopped and it should certainly not be presented to children as being normal or acceptable!
Now I don't mean to be pushy here but lives on the line and so I feel compelled to point out that killing animals is simply wrong. How would you feel if you were a deer and somebody was hunting you? You would not like it.
Okay, I don't want to get too political here. But I simply disagree on this issue and it shocked me that this sort of thing is accepted here in NH. I had thought that NH was more of a "green" type state where people lived in harmony with nature and didn't kill animals.
And I simply cannot imagine a woman doing this sort of thing. Women are nurturers and care-givers not butchers.
But yet NH is consistently ranked as one of the safest states in the nation. No there does not need to be a law against it. People here on both sides of the aisle take their 2nd ammendment very seriously.
Well I don't agree at all but I have said enough so I am not going to say any more about it. I don't want the thread getting too political since there is more wrong with NH than just the crazy lack of common sense gun control.
Well I don't agree at all but I have said enough so I am not going to say any more about it. I don't want the thread getting too political since there is more wrong with NH than just the crazy lack of common sense gun control.
Amazing.
California breaks the top 10 most dangerous states in the union and they have probably THE most strictest un-constitutional gun control laws in the nation.
New Hampshire, has some of the least, and is ranked 47th in crime.
The stats are based on per-capita, so I don't want to hear the excuse of population.
More than likely, the problem lies with the position the socialists utopia of Kalifornia has taken with illegals.
You must not know a lot about NH's gun laws. I did some research into this after I saw these nuts walking around with guns on their hips. Apparently it is legal for them to do so! Even if you call the police, the police can't do anything about it. It is called "open carriage" or something like that and anybody can do it.
I must say that this was something I had not heard of before coming here. In california we have common sense gun control and guns are not just handed out the way they are in NH. It is quite shocking that something like this is allowed to go on.
But nobody seems to care. I contacted my state reps and senator but nobody gave much of a damn about this.
I just cannot understand this tolerance of violent weapons. It is not normal and there needs to be a law against it.
We live in NH and are gun owners. My husband and I used to shoot for sport, and my husband used to hunt (birds - no big game...would probably still hunt if he had time). We gave our son my old pistol on his 18th birthday as well as private shooting & handgun safety lessons...and he has a concealed carry permit and also open carries. All I can say in very simple terms is that it is our right to do so, and I feel extremely safe in my own home. We are most certainly not nuts. In fact, if you met us you're first impressions would probably be: conservative hard working upstanding member of community soccer/field hockey/softball/basketball mom & dad, conservative/academic/athletic son & daughter. We have a dog, cat, rabbit, fish & a picket fence. We're so darn normal it isn't even funny. We just happen to own guns.
Valerie, I thank you for your response as you raise a lot of good points. However, I must respectfully disagree on the issue of violence toward animals or "hunting" as you call it. There is simply no need for it in this day and age when there are veggie alternatives for protein needs. This barbarity needs to be stopped and it should certainly not be presented to children as being normal or acceptable!
Now I don't mean to be pushy here but lives on the line and so I feel compelled to point out that killing animals is simply wrong. How would you feel if you were a deer and somebody was hunting you? You would not like it.
Okay, I don't want to get too political here. But I simply disagree on this issue and it shocked me that this sort of thing is accepted here in NH. I had thought that NH was more of a "green" type state where people lived in harmony with nature and didn't kill animals.
And I simply cannot imagine a woman doing this sort of thing. Women are nurturers and care-givers not butchers.
I respectfully disagree, too. I am a woman - a nurturer and caregiver - and meat is a normal and acceptable part of my children's diet.
Jayne
I don't expect you to understand, as you have your own value system, as does everyone here. Your post and entire thought-process is scary, and reminds me of the Christian crusaders, and the missionaries who travel to other places to push their personal beliefs onto "the poor ignorant population". You don't eat meat, and that's a GREAT thing, for you and your family. However, just because YOU have made that choice doesn't mean it's right for everybody.
The barbarity that should be stopped is in the farm factories that raise the meat that is sold each day in the supermarket, not a hunter who takes one or two deer a year. I understand that you don't eat meat, so you don't contribute to the problem. However, don't you think that if you're going to protest something, that you start with a truly barbaric place like the feedlots and farm factories of the midwest and CALIFORNIA?
Haver you always lived in SoCal? Let me tell you that we have a LONG winter here, as you discovered last year. Do you have any idea how many deer simply can't survive through that type of winter, because so much open land has been developed? Unlike the west, were there are predators like cougars and wolves, here in NH we have NO predators that can take down a deer. So we have hunters. In some areas, this is the ONLY measure of controlling the population. It's not pretty, but it's a necessity.
Got to run... this is an interesting thread
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Originally Posted by jaynesmithers
Valerie, I thank you for your response as you raise a lot of good points. However, I must respectfully disagree on the issue of violence toward animals or "hunting" as you call it. There is simply no need for it in this day and age when there are veggie alternatives for protein needs. This barbarity needs to be stopped and it should certainly not be presented to children as being normal or acceptable!
Now I don't mean to be pushy here but lives on the line and so I feel compelled to point out that killing animals is simply wrong. How would you feel if you were a deer and somebody was hunting you? You would not like it.
Okay, I don't want to get too political here. But I simply disagree on this issue and it shocked me that this sort of thing is accepted here in NH. I had thought that NH was more of a "green" type state where people lived in harmony with nature and didn't kill animals.
And I simply cannot imagine a woman doing this sort of thing. Women are nurturers and care-givers not butchers.
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Other years, not so much. Even the natives were sick of the damn stuff by the end of last winter, which on the calendar was March, but my backyard still had snow into the beginning of May. Congratulations--now you have bragging rights on living through record-shattering snow in New Hampshire...
