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Old 12-07-2012, 12:18 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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Ok,fine,but still that doesn't change the fact southern Nj,esp the counties I listed seemed more racist.
I'm not saying it isn't present in North Jersey,but it was certainly stronger down there.
The people were more bold with it.

That being said,the best combination I've found is to work in Northern New Jersey and buy a house in Sj,as far as costs are concerned.
The jobs don't pay too much in Sj(and that's if you even get one).
Philadelphia,and Pa in general,doesn't pay that much.
Ny and North Jersey pay decent,but the housing costs are out of control.
Philadelphia and South Jersey pay get you leaps and bounds more than New York and North Jersey given Philadelphia and South Jersey cost of living. A $600k split in Livingston can be had for $350k in Cherry Hill, and the pay gap is a lot lower than 40%.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Ok,fine,but still that doesn't change the fact southern Nj,esp the counties I listed seemed more racist.
I'm not saying it isn't present in North Jersey,but it was certainly stronger down there.
The people were more bold with it.
There is still a lot of de facto segregation in South Jersey, but that is almost more about socio-economics then race. I live in a pretty diverse town by South Jersey standards and I have never heard or seen any kind of racism overt or otherwise. I have plenty of non-white coworkers and friends who live in a variety of communities and none of them feel out of place or discriminated against.

If I wanted to look at it from a general social standpoint, you need to realize that a large majority of the suburbs and wealthier areas are predominately white while the poorer and more urban areas contain much greater diversity. What I do see among some people is a generalized association of "poor and criminal" with certain urban racial groups that is basically a reflection of the realities of the general socio-economic situation and what people see on the nightly news. However, this general view/attitude can be found among all races of middle-class suburbanites. You are just as likely to hear a black middle-class suburbanite making remarks about poor urban racial groups as you are to hear white people making the same comments.

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That being said,the best combination I've found is to work in Northern New Jersey and buy a house in Sj,as far as costs are concerned.
The jobs don't pay too much in Sj(and that's if you even get one).
Philadelphia,and Pa in general,doesn't pay that much.
Ny and North Jersey pay decent,but the housing costs are out of control.
I had posted a comparison before in a different thread, that compared median income and housing costs between the three main South Jersey counties and several of the North Jersey counties. What it showed was that in terms of things like poverty rate, education level, etc. the counties were virtually identical varying only on level of diversity.

When it came to housing costs and incomes, South Jersey was lower, but the differential in housing costs was easily greater then the differential in income. Meaning, the average person in the three main South Jersey counties, while they make less money on paper has an overall lower cost of living that should lead to them having greater disposable income. I believe it worked out that median income in South Jersey was around 20% lower, but housing costs were nearly half of what they were in North Jersey. So, when adjusted for COL, people in South Jersey on average "make more money".
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Honestly,there are positives and negatives with both.

Please don't get mad,but in south jersey I sensed a "racism" factor down there.
I can't describe it,but the people did seem more racist,based on actions and words.
Mainly in Burlington,Gloucester,Salem,Camden,counties
Yeah, there's definitely no racism further north. Ever hear of the dotbusters? Being Indian, I love the nice and pleasant looks that non-Indians give me when I'm in the Edison area. Diversity does not equal tolerance.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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Ok,fine,but still that doesn't change the fact southern Nj,esp the counties I listed seemed more racist.
I'm not saying it isn't present in North Jersey,but it was certainly stronger down there.
The people were more bold with it.

That being said,the best combination I've found is to work in Northern New Jersey and buy a house in Sj,as far as costs are concerned.
The jobs don't pay too much in Sj(and that's if you even get one).
Philadelphia,and Pa in general,doesn't pay that much.
Ny and North Jersey pay decent,but the housing costs are out of control.
how u gon live in south jers and work in north tho
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:20 PM
 
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Philadelphia and South Jersey pay get you leaps and bounds more than New York and North Jersey given Philadelphia and South Jersey cost of living. A $600k split in Livingston can be had for $350k in Cherry Hill, and the pay gap is a lot lower than 40%.
exactly
the salary gap is more like 5-7%

Metropolitan statistical areas ranked by median household income
New York–Northern New Jersey–Long Island, New York–New Jersey–Connecticut–Pennsylvania CMSA $50,795
Philadelphia–Wilmington–Atlantic City, Pennsylvania–New Jersey–Delaware–Maryland CMSA $47,528
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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how u gon live in south jers and work in north tho
Well, if you lived in, say, Mount Laurel and worked in, say, New Brunswick, you could do that drive everyday. I still wouldn't want it, but that's another story. If you go farther north and/or live farther south, well, tbh, it's probably still doable from just about any part of NJ to another unless it's, like, Cape May to Sussex county... forget about that. It's just quality of life that takes a hit for that kind of commute, so I'd decline the extra money for a much harder commute if that were the decision I had.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Well, if you lived in, say, Mount Laurel and worked in, say, New Brunswick, you could do that drive everyday. I still wouldn't want it, but that's another story. If you go farther north and/or live farther south, well, tbh, it's probably still doable from just about any part of NJ to another unless it's, like, Cape May to Sussex county... forget about that. It's just quality of life that takes a hit for that kind of commute, so I'd decline the extra money for a much harder commute if that were the decision I had.
I agree and I also think the River Line connection to the Northeast Corridor Line has helped opened up the minds of many South Jersey residents(especially Burlington County) to seriously consider that a commute to the North Jersey/New York area for work is actually doable.

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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Well, if you lived in, say, Mount Laurel and worked in, say, New Brunswick, you could do that drive everyday. I still wouldn't want it, but that's another story. If you go farther north and/or live farther south, well, tbh, it's probably still doable from just about any part of NJ to another unless it's, like, Cape May to Sussex county... forget about that. It's just quality of life that takes a hit for that kind of commute, so I'd decline the extra money for a much harder commute if that were the decision I had.
thats a pretty low possibility that u find a job in that area exactly and even if u do-its too far, and i dont kno if n brunswick salaries would be that much higher, jobs in places like newark and nyc mite pay much higher for some, still not worth it at all, mite as well live in the north
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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Yeah, there's definitely no racism further north. Ever hear of the dotbusters? Being Indian, I love the nice and pleasant looks that non-Indians give me when I'm in the Edison area. Diversity does not equal tolerance.
I never said that. However,it was more bold.
For instance, Burlington City(my city) is always pegged as ghetto. Same with Willingboro.
When I lived there,it was 100x better than Newark,where I came from.
I looked up the crime stats for Willingboro,and its actually safer then surrounding towns.
I always heard from other whites how its all bad. I think its thought of as bad because its majority black.
Oh,and riding around Salem and Cumberland was fun.....I am not going to repeat the things I saw on signs down there about Obama.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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I agree and I also think the River Line connection to the Northeast Corridor Line has helped opened up the minds of many South Jersey residents(especially Burlington County) to seriously consider that a commute to the North Jersey/New York area for work is actually doable.
It will get better once they finish the Njt extension.....that's If they finish it.
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