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The OP is obviously trying to tout Northern Virginia.
Northern Virginia, first of all, surrounds one of the whitest-collared cities in the U.S. which is Washington. Since Washington does not have it's own state to suck up the majority of its suburbs, it has to use Virginia and Maryland, which it has.
If anything has stifled New Jersey's suburbs, it has been taxes and tolls. Those are the only two things stopping me from living there.
You also need not compare anything to Northern Virginia, because, unlike NORMAL cities, Washington is government, and immune to any kind of unstable local economy. That metro will have a steady pump of development as long as the United States exists.
New Jersey, however, is susceptible to something as small as a plant closing in Camden, or a toll or tax increase, or the decline of Philadelphia's industry.
I am not so sure about that. I'll give you a 'for instance': the exit ramp on the GSP to I-78 west was completed a few years ago after being in the works for decades. Same with Rt 24 west of the Short Hills Mall: on the Morris County master plan since 1957, and wasn't completed until 1991. I will say, however, that 55 has been on the Cape May County master plan for almost as long, and last I remember, still terminates just south of Vineland/Bridgeton. I think when it comes to transportation in general, across the board, the state is very lackluster in pushing through. I-95 from New Brunswick to Pennington is yet another example.
The Tuscan Plant which refused to move was keeping that ramp from being built on the GSP/78 interchange.
95 is merged with the Turnpike from exit 6 on up. Southbound you get off at exit 6 and merge onto 95 in PA even though that isn't signed it's multiplexed. The 95 in Mercer County down the Scudders Falls Bridge into PA is a spur off the parent route and ends at parent 95 where 276 comes in from NJ Tpk exit 6.
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The Tuscan Plant which refused to move was keeping that ramp from being built on the GSP/78 interchange.
95 is merged with the Turnpike from exit 6 on up. Southbound you get off at exit 6 and merge onto 95 in PA even though that isn't signed it's multiplexed.The 95 in Mercer County down the Scudders Falls Bridge into PA is a spur off the parent route and ends at parent 95 where 276 comes in from NJ Tpk exit 6.
ROFLMAO!
Thank you Charles!
That explains something that happened at my sister's recently.
My niece's boyfriend was coming down to Pitman from Central Jersey, got on 95 & didn't make it onto 295. He cruised through Philly & ended up on the Walt Whitman bridge & smack into shore traffic on 42 on a Friday night. My brother-in-law had no clue what went wrong. He had routed my niece differently to make the trip to Central Jersey.
95 is NOT the NJ Turnpike, it never has been. I-95 actually stops at the Route 1 interchange north of Trenton. I-95 then magically disappears and then reappears again at milepost 117.9 on the NJ Turnpike past Exit 18 E/W. There are signs on the Turnpike that may say TO 95. But the Turnpike is NOT 95.
The NJ Turnpike is a private roadway maintained by the New Jersey Turnpike Authority and thus is maintained by the authority and not by the New Jersey Dept of Transportation. Because of that, it does not receive any federal funds for maintaining the roadway, and thus, since it does not receive federal funds it can NOT be designated with an interstate marking. The NJDOT is responsible for the numbering of highways that the "public" owns. Since the NJDOT does not own the turnpike it can not give it an interstate number.
The same thing holds true for the GSP and ACE.
What is really interesting, is that if you travel on I-295 at all the exits that share an interchange with the turnpike (for example the exits for routes 322,73,etc.) You will see on the exit sign the symbol for the NJTP. HOWEVER if you travel the New Jersey Turnpike you will NOT see Route I-295 listed on ANY sign. That is because when I-295 was built it was to built for the commuters of South Jersey, not as a way to by pass the tolls from people traveling through the state from North Jersey.
All I know, is that I like it undeveloped, and would like to remove some of the development. Part of the reason I would like to see Camden make a comeback, is that it would save the remaining open space for future generations, and (hopefully, but trusting my luck it would backfire) allow me to continue living in my rural community that is midway between Philly and Cape May.
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I would say that South Jersey begins at the Del Mem Bridge and ends up at the "Truck Stop Exit" on 295 at Bordentown for US 130/206.
Central Jersey starts there where the new section of I-295 was constructed.
Remember when that was the last exit on 295?
Absolutely! I used to go up there & get on 206 & then take a weird county road that ended in what appearred to be a colonial cowpath that had asphalt coating it, to go to a semi-annual sale at a store in Princeton. I used to get Icelandic sweaters that sold for $150 -250 in Strawbridge & Clothier for $20 -30 at that sale.
As some have previously mentioned, one of the main reasons why SJ is "undeveloped": that large preserved area known as the Pine Barrens. Just south of the larger designated Pineland area near the shore are some urban/suburban areas such as Atlantic City, Ventnor, Ocean City, Galloway Township, Northfield, etc. However, these cities/towns are somewhat "isolated", given how far these places are from the major cities such as NYC and Philly.
Transportation also plays a role is SJ's "undeveloped" state. The main public transportation options in SJ are the NJ transit buses (551, 502, 319, etc.), the AC rail line, Riverline, and the Patco. Compared to North Jersey, this is less than subpar. Cars are more of a must-have down in SJ if you need to travel and don't have immediate access to public transportation. A saying my friends I use a lot when talking about SJ transportation (in our area): "If you don't have a car, you're screwed!"
In terms of roadways, the AC expressway/42 is an east-west major lifeline that connects both the GSP and I-295. There are other important roadways such as Rt. 30. 40, 322, 73, 72, 70, and 55. In general, these roadways are not in close proximity to one another (in some areas, yes. in most areas, no.)
Business: what business? Big business is lack-luster in SJ, for the most part. Since SJ (shore counties) are not that close to Philly and nowhere near NYC, the area just doesn't attract big business (with the exception of casinos) like No. NJ can (given how close the area is to NYC).
However, as previous posters have mentioned, housing developments are sprouting at a fast rate, as well as chain stores and fast-food restaurants around these developments. Sicklerville and Berlin Cross-Keys rd. is a good example. That Target and Wawa on the corner or Berlin Cross Keys and Williamstown/Erial rd. didn't exist 8, 10, or even 15 years ago! Five, seven, maybe!
A plus about SJ: Less pollution-you can actually drink the tap water!
From the personal perspective of an Atlantic County resident.
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