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Agreed, need to know which one you are talking about. Gloucester City, not what most would call nice. Gloucester Township is generally nice. Gloucester County has some really nice areas and some not so nice areas.
I am only stating the facts gloucester has service but the 130 corridor is horrid with 402 the kings hwy corridor has 401 bi hourly the 410 runs on rte 45 to rte 77 but bihourly south of mucilla hill, 412 is like a crosstown between woodbury and pitman which has 408 buses run almost hourly the 313 FAILS HARD!!!! all the rtrs go to camden except 463 which is crosstown the lack of service on rte 40 and 322 hurts transit here
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Can I ask you something how would you improve NJT bus routes in SJ if you were a NJT planner??
I had to think about this. The short version is that at a bare minimum, add more hubs & more cross routes. The hub system isn't very good, but, this would be the bare minimum, least effort version. Adding more frequency to many routes would help. However, the reality is that most people have had such a bad experience with them that I doubt that it would help enough to offset the expense.
The problem with South Jersey transit is that outside of the PATCO corridor (and even then not past Haddonfield), nothing in South Jersey was developed with an eye to transit. The employment centers, retail centers and residential areas are all diverse and spread over a wide area. On employment there really isn't a "center" as office parks exist randomly and are generally geared to highway accessibility. Same thing with retail, outside of the major malls, everything else is spread out and diverse.
Transit really only works when you are in a high density grid like a city or where you are moving a large number of people from a dense residential/retail area to a dense business/retail area. South Jersey is simply too spread out.
The problem with South Jersey transit is that outside of the PATCO corridor (and even then not past Haddonfield), nothing in South Jersey was developed with an eye to transit. The employment centers, retail centers and residential areas are all diverse and spread over a wide area. On employment there really isn't a "center" as office parks exist randomly and are generally geared to highway accessibility. Same thing with retail, outside of the major malls, everything else is spread out and diverse.
Transit really only works when you are in a high density grid like a city or where you are moving a large number of people from a dense residential/retail area to a dense business/retail area. South Jersey is simply too spread out.
yeah but many NJT routes are off the highway several travel the highway
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