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At least Philly has nice Center City , South ,University City ,Northwest and Northeast Philly to counter its bad blighted North and West Philly.... Most cities have decent areas or are 50/50 , Camden only has a tiny area....
That is the problem. The Stats show that. Camden is small but not too small and its all bad. There is no reason why it should be so bad. It has a great regional location and the region has lots of money but just like Trenton and AC its bad. I guess its a South Jersey thing. We really are trying to kill our cities.
Bing Maps actually has more extensive coverage of the city than Google Maps, so I checked out some streets, and a lot of them didn't look too bad. Of course, it was only a few streets, but still. (On Google Maps, in the areas where it shows the residential streets, a lot actually do look pretty bad, though).
I know the Fairview area, as well as the Stockton area (to a certain extent are alright).
Even if it looks ok on a map you have to think about the services that are provided in that area. There are over 70 open air drug markets in the city. there is no real police force. I was in Yorkship Square last year for work and there was one in the center of the park. Just terrible. The rutgers area is safe because of the campus police. The waterfront is safe because of all the security guards. Almost all the streets have lots of trash and lots of boarded up row homes. I really do want the city to get better but right now its a place for people with no other options.
Newark isn't as bad as Camden , its 50/50 like Philly.... Camden is like Irvington , only one good neighborhood or side and sea of blighted crimed filled broken homes and apartments.
Hoboken exists because Manhattan is a high pressure system trying to get through a very narrow valve. Philly on the other hand is still cheap and has tons of available space available for redevelopment and infill. Until Philly fills up, there will be no Hoboken in SJ.
Unfortunately, I have to agree here. Collingswood has a lot going for it to become that type of place, but as long as they prevent any bar from opening in town, it will never take off. It is a shame because there is a lot going on on "the avenue" during the day, but after dinner there is nothing to do.
Hoboken exists because Manhattan is a high pressure system trying to get through a very narrow valve. Philly on the other hand is still cheap and has tons of available space available for redevelopment and infill. Until Philly fills up, there will be no Hoboken in SJ.
This is very true. And let me add that it is more likely that an edge city type of place would be popping up on the PA side of the river rather than the NJ side. Even something like Manayunk might qualify now, even though it still is technically part of Philly itself.
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