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Old 07-25-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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Additional surveys delay S. Jersey light rail report - Philly.com
From a few days ago.



Seems there are a few minor details to work out... Like who pays for the 1.6 billion construction, and who operates/maintains the trains at what could probably be a loss.
But significant questions remain on how the line would be paid for or who would operate the trains.
The Delaware River Port Authority is overseeing the ongoing environmental studies, but DRPA officials have said the agency will not pay for or run the rail line. NJ Transit has not committed to paying for it or operating it
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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Additional surveys delay S. Jersey light rail report - Philly.com
From a few days ago.



Seems there are a few minor details to work out... Like who pays for the 1.6 billion construction, and who operates/maintains the trains at what could probably be a loss.
But significant questions remain on how the line would be paid for or who would operate the trains.
The Delaware River Port Authority is overseeing the ongoing environmental studies, but DRPA officials have said the agency will not pay for or run the rail line. NJ Transit has not committed to paying for it or operating it
It's going to die as a possibility imo.
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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It's going to die as a possibility imo.
Wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Wouldn't be the first time.
Many people need to have their word(s) be true and count first here in south jersey, too many lies and exaggerations as well as no apologies for their wrongdoings from my experiences down here in the 2 plus years I'm here. It has to do with the unorganized/corrupt state of whatever within the local governments I say.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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It's going to die as a possibility imo.
It's only a delay for several months. It's not the end of the world. In fact, the article states that construction of the Glassboro-Camden Line could start as early as 2016, which is only two years away. While I wish this transit project was heavy rail like the PATCO, I'm still grateful that it's something instead of nothing. If nothing gets done and the project is abandoned, the problem doesn't go away as we will have to deal with the same issues 10-20 years from now except that the problem will be even worse as the population and traffic levels continue to increase in South Jersey.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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It's only a delay for several months. It's not the end of the world. In fact, the article states that construction of the Glassboro-Camden Line could start as early as 2016, which is only two years away. While I wish this transit project was heavy rail like the PATCO, I'm still grateful that it's something instead of nothing. If nothing gets done and the project is abandoned, the problem doesn't go away as we will have to deal with the same issues 10-20 years from now except that the problem will be even worse as the population and traffic levels continue to increase in South Jersey.
You mean possibly several years or decades. A matter of decoding south jersey bs language and lies, just like there's a Wendy's going up on Cross Keys Road in Sicklerville and it initially said to open early spring 2014 - well it's still under construction.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Many people need to have their word(s) be true and count first here in south jersey, too many lies and exaggerations as well as no apologies for their wrongdoings from my experiences down here in the 2 plus years I'm here. It has to do with the unorganized/corrupt state of whatever within the local governments I say.
It's been written in other threads that PATCO wanted to expand the original line into Burlington County (through Moorestown) & into Gloucester County to Glassboro in the 1970s. Federal money was still available for heavy rail. The state government refused to consider it. South Jersey's money continued to be sent to North Jersey for their transit systems.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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It's been written in other threads that PATCO wanted to expand the original line into Burlington County (through Moorestown) & into Gloucester County to Glassboro in the 1970s. Federal money was still available for heavy rail. The state government refused to consider it. South Jersey's money continued to be sent to North Jersey for their transit systems.
As it should

In all seriousness, SJ still lacks mass transit and these developments are disappointing. I would have loved to take a trip on the Gloucester light rail, but I probably won't be living in the area when it's finished. That said, North Jersey has also suffered delayed/cancelled projects too (Elizabeth/Cranford line, south Broad line in Newark, Hawthorne-Hackensack project...the West Side extension of the HBLR remains in limbo too). Really, we need a state and federal government serious about funding mass transit.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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It's been written in other threads that PATCO wanted to expand the original line into Burlington County (through Moorestown) & into Gloucester County to Glassboro in the 1970s. Federal money was still available for heavy rail. The state government refused to consider it. South Jersey's money continued to be sent to North Jersey for their transit systems.
Question: Where's the local government representatives voice in all of this?
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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Most of the Northern Jersey projects are sheveled...not canceled. NJT has even bought some of the Freight lines in prep for the commuter service....so they intend to eventually have service. The leadership at NJT needs to change...and the thought process behind the lines. The Bergen-Passaic LRT has gone through many alt ideas and proposals , the final plan was very botched and silly compared to the older plans which were more integrated. Same happened to a few Central Projects the first concept was great , but then it was wither down to a botched plan which didn't serve as many ppl as the original plan and was of course met with opposition from the towns left out. NJT over the last 5 years has spent 2.6 billion on wasteful pork , thats enough for a few smaller but critical lines in North and Central Jersey. If the leadership was more progressive i'm sure you'd see more action.
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