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Old 11-01-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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I have a job lined up at Sugarhouse casino in Philadelphia, and am considering living in Jersey instead of Philadelphia. The areas I'm interested are the Camden waterfront, and Cherry Hill and close surrounding areas. I'm a cyclist, and would like to keep my commute under 20 miles round trip.

Some questions:

I've heard Camden (other than the waterfront) should be avoided like the plague. Are there any other areas that are undesirable? Is the waterfront area even safe?

Is the Ben Franklin Bridge open 24 hours for cyclists and pedestrians?

Is there any nightlife in the Cherry Hill area, or do people simply go to Philly?
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Old 11-01-2014, 06:37 PM
 
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No area of Camden is safe at all, outside of the rutgers campus. The waterfront is not a residential neighborhood, it's just tourist attractions and parking.

There isn't really any nightlife in cherry Hill or in south jersey in general. Cherry hill is an auto suburb, not bike friendly. If not philly, try Collingswood. ..much more walkable
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Old 11-01-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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I would stick to living on the PA side. The bike/walkway on Ben is under construction and even when it's done the paths are closed when weather is bad.
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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I would stick to living on the PA side. The bike/walkway on Ben is under construction and even when it's done the paths are closed when weather is bad.
Thanks, that is vital information. I read that the construction was completed and the walkway was now open again. However, how often is it closed during the winter? And when it's closed, I'm assuming there's no way to get into PA by bike?
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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I would much rather live in NJ than Philly, because I prefer to live in suburban environments. The NJ suburbs is the only area reasonably close to Sugarhouse that fits that bill. However, if it's not possible then that's that
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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No area of Camden is safe at all, outside of the rutgers campus. The waterfront is not a residential neighborhood, it's just tourist attractions and parking.

There isn't really any nightlife in cherry Hill or in south jersey in general. Cherry hill is an auto suburb, not bike friendly. If not philly, try Collingswood. ..much more walkable
I've seen advertisements for housing on the Camden waterfront. Not bike friendly doesn't bother me... I'm ready for whatever the road throws at me
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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Thanks, that is vital information. I read that the construction was completed and the walkway was now open again. However, how often is it closed during the winter? And when it's closed, I'm assuming there's no way to get into PA by bike?
Bikes are allowed on the PATCO train.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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1) Camden Riverfront has the Victor apartments which are apparently doing very well as I believe they are converting more buildings.

a) But I don't thing anyone is riding their bike to them and the bridge at 2am. I don't think you would remain healthy for long.

b) Yes patco allows bikes on trains. A good compromise of suburbs and getting to casino. Look at Collingswood and Westmont

2) there may be a small tax benefit to lving in jersey and working in Philly. The philly wage tax is basically credited back for Jersey residents. Philly pay city wage and state.

3) there are plenty of clubs and bars in Jersey but you are driving to all of them. If you are younger (and I assume you are asking about bars) then you should look at Old City Philadelphia. It is a neighborhood with bars and restaurants scattered all over, a dense population of "millennials" and a very doable bike ride to sugar house. Worth paying more (if that were the case) for you.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:49 AM
 
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1) Camden Riverfront has the Victor apartments which are apparently doing very well as I believe they are converting more buildings.

a) But I don't thing anyone is riding their bike to them and the bridge at 2am. I don't think you would remain healthy for long.

b) Yes patco allows bikes on trains. A good compromise of suburbs and getting to casino. Look at Collingswood and Westmont

2) there may be a small tax benefit to lving in jersey and working in Philly. The philly wage tax is basically credited back for Jersey residents. Philly pay city wage and state.

3) there are plenty of clubs and bars in Jersey but you are driving to all of them. If you are younger (and I assume you are asking about bars) then you should look at Old City Philadelphia. It is a neighborhood with bars and restaurants scattered all over, a dense population of "millennials" and a very doable bike ride to sugar house. Worth paying more (if that were the case) for you.
A: why not? Not safe?

B: If I have to take the train I'd rather stay in PA

3: I just do not like living in the city. It is too noisy and not a good environment for biking due to the traffic and streetlights. Like I said before, I may have no choice
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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A: why not? Not safe?

B: If I have to take the train I'd rather stay in PA

3: I just do not like living in the city. It is too noisy and not a good environment for biking due to the traffic and streetlights. Like I said before, I may have no choice
What's wrong with having a car to use when the bike is not practical. Do you think that it's a good idea to bike over a bridge in a hurricane or a nor'easter? How were you planning to get groceries if you lived in Camden? You don't want to take your bike on a train to get across the river.

You haven't thought this out. What do you think that you'll look like after biking 10 miles just to get to Philly from Cherry Hill before going upriver to the casino in a nor'easter, or a hurricane, much less when it's 98 degrees & 98% humidity in the summer..
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