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Here is a great website for those interested in the excellent attractions on the Camden Waterfront, the revival of Camden is for real and I applaud the city for their great improvements:
You could stretch that to a week in the summer with the baseball, concerts and festivals. You could be a regular at Hank's.
Visiting for a ball game, the battleship, or the aquarium in daylight while traveling in numbers is far different from moving your family into harms way to live there. There was a time that I would even venture into Camden for a Donkeys cheese steak but not since they opened up Donkeys Too in Medford. When you have to travel through the most dangerous city in the US to visit an attraction is it really worth the risk ? I think most people would err on the side of common sense and concern for their families safety and say no.
I wouldn't go prancing through parts of Camden with my family, but I certainly have no issue taking them to the water front. Would I move to Camden, no, but that doesn't mean that I can't see why some people who are interested in working to improve the community would. We can pour billions of dollars into Camden and it won't fix the problems of the city, but if enough right minded citizens were willing to take on the challenge the city could rapidly be fixed. Camden needs people who give a crap about Camden and making it a better place.
Based on your mentatily Flyers Fan, why don't we just wall it off and let them fend for themselves. Finish that up with some bulldozers and call it a day.
I wouldn't go prancing through parts of Camden with my family, but I certainly have no issue taking them to the water front. Would I move to Camden, no, but that doesn't mean that I can't see why some people who are interested in working to improve the community would. We can pour billions of dollars into Camden and it won't fix the problems of the city, but if enough right minded citizens were willing to take on the challenge the city could rapidly be fixed. Camden needs people who give a crap about Camden and making it a better place.
Based on your mentatily Flyers Fan, why don't we just wall it off and let them fend for themselves. Finish that up with some bulldozers and call it a day.
If Newark can do it in 4 years , Camden can do it aswell. They need a Cory Booker type Mayor and city council.
I wouldn't go prancing through parts of Camden with my family, but I certainly have no issue taking them to the water front. Would I move to Camden, no, but that doesn't mean that I can't see why some people who are interested in working to improve the community would. We can pour billions of dollars into Camden and it won't fix the problems of the city, but if enough right minded citizens were willing to take on the challenge the city could rapidly be fixed. Camden needs people who give a crap about Camden and making it a better place.
Based on your mentatily Flyers Fan, why don't we just wall it off and let them fend for themselves. Finish that up with some bulldozers and call it a day.
Well.....if you wouldn't move to Camden why would you expect anyone else to ? I do agree that pouring money into Camden is not the answer as long as we have the current population residing there as if there is anyone who actually does give a crap living there you can't here their voice over the gunfire or see them through the piles of debris and garbage. It doesn't cost anything to be clean but even the desire to live in a clean house isn't present in Camden. A wall certainly isn't the answer, however, hoping "right minded" citizens will suddenly appear and take responsibility for the mess that Camden is isn't the solution either. Bulldozing much of the abandoned and crumbling homes that can't be saved is actually a good start for many reasons. Theres no use in even attempting to create anything new with eyesore deteriorating buildings still in place housing crack dealers, prostitues and homeless. Next you need non corrupt elected officials which are hard to find in New Jersey let alone Camden. I'm sorry you don't like my mentality but I happen to reside in the world of reality and its very clear that Camden is going no where quick and a few waterfront "attractions" is not the solution to turning this city around. People attending them may pass through Camden but they are not risking their lives and stopping in the City to spend money on anything else......as if there was even anything else to spend money on there ?
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Well.....if you wouldn't move to Camden why would you expect anyone else to ? I do agree that pouring money into Camden is not the answer as long as we have the current population residing there as if there is anyone who actually does give a crap living there you can't here their voice over the gunfire or see them through the piles of debris and garbage. It doesn't cost anything to be clean but even the desire to live in a clean house isn't present in Camden. A wall certainly isn't the answer, however, hoping "right minded" citizens will suddenly appear and take responsibility for the mess that Camden is isn't the solution either. Bulldozing much of the abandoned and crumbling homes that can't be saved is actually a good start for many reasons. Theres no use in even attempting to create anything new with eyesore deteriorating buildings still in place housing crack dealers, prostitues and homeless. Next you need non corrupt elected officials which are hard to find in New Jersey let alone Camden. I'm sorry you don't like my mentality but I happen to reside in the world of reality and its very clear that Camden is going no where quick and a few waterfront "attractions" is not the solution to turning this city around. People attending them may pass through Camden but they are not risking their lives and stopping in the City to spend money on anything else......as if there was even anything else to spend money on there ?
Unfortunately, this is pretty much dead on. I've often wondered why they didn't try to rehab from the 2 neighborhoods that were still liveable, & work their way out from them. (Cramer Hill is one, & I forget which one is the other) That would make sense, to just keep enlarging the liveable neighborhoods.
The worst part of this being right is your comment about the population. My best friend has worked in the court system for many, many years (since before the Hall of Justice was built) & has told horror stories about being given people who were hired as political favors. These "political favors" were born & raised in Camden & spoke only Spanglish. She knew people who had applied for the jobs, but here were the people who she was given, instead, who spoke neither English nor Spanish. How in the world do you get through 12 years of school without speaking one of the 2 languages?
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You could be a regular at Hank's.
