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Old 08-11-2010, 07:21 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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NJ Transit train service suspended between Jersey Avenue and Trenton | NJ.com

Oh Amtrak will you please fix your dam corridor already.... It also has affected the Septa Trenton line....
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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NJ Transit train service suspended between Jersey Avenue and Trenton | NJ.com

Oh Amtrak will you please fix your dam corridor already.... It also has affected the Septa Trenton line....
WHAT?! So HALF of the NEC line is not operating in the meantime? That's insane!
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Its affecting over 380 trains and up to an estimated 130,000. On a side note NJT should restore the West Trenton line , then we can bypass this mess.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I knew that there was something off about today...I didn't hear any trains coming in/out of the New Brunswick NJT station. It's been quiet...too quiet!

I just saw an Amtrak pass by the NB station going northbound. Seems like that's the only service that will be running today.
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Old 08-11-2010, 01:04 PM
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Can't wait to see what NJ Transit publishes as their on-time performance numbers THIS month.

Thankfully, I use the Jersey Ave Station, so at least I was able to make it to work today. It was crazy-crowded, but at least they got me down the rail. And getting on at JA even got me a seat.
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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Can't wait to see what NJ Transit publishes as their on-time performance numbers THIS month.
do they actually publish this????
becasue, one of my biggest gripes with them is that they have 0 accountability. If it is published, they keep it on the DL pretty well...
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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do they actually publish this????
becasue, one of my biggest gripes with them is that they have 0 accountability. If it is published, they keep it on the DL pretty well...
Yes my line and the Passaic-Bergen network is ontime 98%. I don't dispute that , they seem to be always ontime and usually get to Secaucus / Hoboken 5-10mins early.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:32 PM
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Yes, they DO publish them. There was a lot of flack when they posted an overall 95% number for last month. Many folks questioned the verasity of that number.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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Yes my line and the Passaic-Bergen network is ontime 98%. I don't dispute that , they seem to be always ontime and usually get to Secaucus / Hoboken 5-10mins early.
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Yes, they DO publish them. There was a lot of flack when they posted an overall 95% number for last month. Many folks questioned the verasity of that number.
That's seriously laughable. I couldn't find the raw numbers, but this NYT article helps debunk it:
95% of the Trains Are on Time? Riders and Reality Beg to Differ - New York Times

let's look at how 'create accounting' could have gotten us this number.
Perhaps it's not weighted for rush hour? If 96% of the trains run between the hours of 10-4pm, 7pm-1am, and on weekends - there's your 96%; while 100% of rush hour trains are LATE!!!

ok ok, i know it's not that skewed, but see this snip from the article:
On weekday mornings, 1 in 10 trains entering Pennsylvania Station arrived late, two-thirds by 10 minutes or more. At the peak of the rush, from 8:30 to 9:30 a.m., about 25 percent of New Jersey Transit trains entering Manhattan arrived late; about 2 in 5 of the late trains were tardy by at least 15 minutes. (The trains' scheduled runs are a little more than an hour on average.)
and what about the 2-3 times a month where there hour 1-2 HOUR delays - using this methodology,this counts the same as a train that is 5 mins late. Surely, that impact is much greater.
Also - what is the dataset? Are they counting each stop, or each final destination? ie - if a train makes 9 stops thru NWK and SEC, and NYP is it's 10th stop, well - you're going to have at least 80% or 90% ontime for that train. But if you ask me, a train that gets to NYP late is 100% late.

if anyone can get their hands on the raw numbers, i need a good laugh.

Massaging the data - way to continue to prove yourself as a pathetic joke of an organization, NJT!
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