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Under the Muslims, the Jews and Christians had religious freedom; of course, the Muslims were still the ruling class of the time and place. That religious freedom was destroyed under Isabella and Ferdinand, as we know.
Yes, even though it stands for religious freedom, the implication is still that Islam rules, but that's not particularly offensive. They ARE Muslims, and they believe their religion is the right one, just as Christians believe that their religion is the right one and that someday their religion will prevail over all the earth. This is usually the point when someone starts screeching "yeah but Muslims will FORCE us all to convert blah blah blah" so I'll save them the fingertip skin here--but the fact is that non-extremists do not adhere to that--they believe we will all eventually come willingly to Islam because it's such a great religion and attractive way to live. Ain't gonna happen, but believing what you want is what freedom of religion is.
Jews are different--they don't make it easy for you to convert, lol.
so true. did you see the daily show bit the other night where one guy was team muhammad and the other was team jesus? it was hilarious. at the end, the revealed they formed a secret pact that if the other "was right", they had a process for quick conversion so that they can both go to heaven. it shows the ridiculousness of it all in a satirical way.
This book, and many others by the same author, explore this topic of terror and "god" very deeply. I forgot that, ironically to this discussion, McVeigh is one of the people on the cover. I don't fully remember how they discussed his religious views in the book though.
I don't think I have very often in my life called someone ignorant......
I don't even think it proves someone is very smart to spit out that word.
ignorant - definition of ignorant by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
It refers to "lacking knowledge", being "unaware and uninformed". Someone equating the Islamic religion with the terrorist activities on 9-11 is without a doubt lacking knowledge, unaware and uninformed about the Islamic religion, just as someone equating Christianity with Jonestown would be. Calling someone ignorant is not the same thing as calling them stupid or something. One who is ignorant about x could certainly have the ability to become better informed about x.
We're all ignorant about many things, by the way. It's simply impossible to be well informed about everything. There's too much to know about.
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Reading all the 9/11 books I can get my hands on, I think the act was in part meshed with the religion.
No one said that the terrorists did not have at least some religious motivations. Look up equating on the url I gave you, too. Jim Jones certainly had religious motivations as well.
Goes well beyond those 19 men......it is going on all around the world with terror attacks in the name of Allah
Someone could say the same thing about Christianity and Jonestown. That's just one example. We could also talk about the Branch Davidians, The Family International, the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God, Christians killing abortion providers, and on and on. Pointing out that some people source their violent actions in their religious beliefs--and again, there's no shortage of examples, we could find hundreds of them--doesn't imply that that is what Christianity is about for the vast majority of contemporary Christians. The same goes for Islam.
so true. did you see the daily show bit the other night where one guy was team muhammad and the other was team jesus? it was hilarious. at the end, the revealed they formed a secret pact that if the other "was right", they had a process for quick conversion so that they can both go to heaven. it shows the ridiculousness of it all in a satirical way.
NO! But I would have loved something like that. LOL
Someone could say the same thing about Christianity and Jonestown. That's just one example. We could also talk about the Branch Davidians, The Family International, the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God, Christians killing abortion providers, and on and on. Pointing out that some people source their violent actions in their religious beliefs--and again, there's no shortage of examples, we could find hundreds of them--doesn't imply that that is what Christianity is about for the vast majority of contemporary Christians. The same goes for Islam.
Jonestown was mass suicide by people who fed into what jones was preaching to them....most of the extremist christian cult groups die by their own hands..they are not flying 747's into buildings killing innocent people.
By the way, I am now completely appalled that they had the nerve to call this place Cordoba House, but not for any of the reasons mentioned.
The Park Place mosque is nothing but a rectangular glass and steel structure, just like hundreds of other buildings in NYC and around the country.
The architecture from the time of the Moorish Cordoba Caliphate was magnificent. They have some nerve naming this uninspiring design after a time and place of such beautiful creativity.
Jonestown was mass suicide by people who fed into what jones was preaching to them....most of the extremist christian cult groups die by their own hands..they are not flying 747's into buildings killing innocent people.
so you don't consider people who get sucked into these cults as innocents?
By the way, I am now completely appalled that they had the nerve to call this place Cordoba House, but not for any of the reasons mentioned.
The Park Place mosque is nothing but a rectangular glass and steel structure, just like hundreds of other buildings in NYC and around the country.
The architecture from the time of the Moorish Cordoba Caliphate was magnificent. They have some nerve naming this uninspiring design after a time and place of such beautiful creativity.
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