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Who said I expect anything? Do you even know me? What I would like is school choice. Meaning buy a home anywhere and send my kid to any school. Sorry if you dont like this.
This is a small step in that direction, but unfortunately for you, most you're in the minority. Teachers unions hate school choice because they don't like choice in general, and conservatives in NJ don't like it because they have a "keep the bums out" mindset.
Just work harder or sacrifice $$ in a different area and buy a house in a better school district if you're not happy with where you are. You don't expect it to be just handed to you do you? Because someone else has it, you deserve it? Why?
You know very well that the top public schools are made that way mostly because of parental involvement...not because of $$$ spent on them.
As advice on how to get by in a broken system, that is fine and good. As a defense of that system, however, it is pretty unconvincing.
Why should someone who wants to spend more on their childs education express that choice by essentially bidding for prime real estate ? To put this another way, why should realtors be compensated for the performance of the school district ?
There are plenty of approaches that would allow parents to be involved in ways that didn't involve them spending large sums on real estate.
Meaning buy a home anywhere and send my kid to any school. Sorry if you dont like this.
Couple of questions.
1. How would the kids get to the school? Would it be the responsibility of the parent or school if I decide to buy a house in South Jersey but decide I want my kid going to a Northern NJ school district?
2. What happens when a school is starting to reach maximum occupancy? Would you hold a lottery to decide who gets in? And then what after that?
1. How would the kids get to the school? Would it be the responsibility of the parent or school if I decide to buy a house in South Jersey but decide I want my kid going to a Northern NJ school district?
2. What happens when a school is starting to reach maximum occupancy? Would you hold a lottery to decide who gets in? And then what after that?
I believe a lottery is exactly what is supposed to happen if it reaches capacity.
I would love to know how this is supposed to work. I have 3 honor students and one of which is G&T, in a failing district (yes, it has been tagged as failing by the state). I spend $ as it is to get them the extras I feel they need and aren't getting in school. Our district has also cut programs, activities, etc.
I would love to send my kids to a better school and I'll even do the transportation myself, no problem. They can keep the transportation $. I only want better for my kids.
Please don't tell me to move. Been trying for 3+ years and home value is even less than when I bought, so we're stuck, but should my kids have to suffer for it? I am glad there is now something that says they don't have to.
Life is not always fair, or perceived to be fair. I would recommend that you get your kids involved in online learning or local educational opportunities like classes at a JC. Just think, the money that you are saving on real estate can go toward the cost of these opportunities.
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Originally Posted by Jerseyt719
I believe a lottery is exactly what is supposed to happen if it reaches capacity.
I would love to know how this is supposed to work. I have 3 honor students and one of which is G&T, in a failing district (yes, it has been tagged as failing by the state). I spend $ as it is to get them the extras I feel they need and aren't getting in school. Our district has also cut programs, activities, etc.
I would love to send my kids to a better school and I'll even do the transportation myself, no problem. They can keep the transportation $. I only want better for my kids.
Please don't tell me to move. Been trying for 3+ years and home value is even less than when I bought, so we're stuck, but should my kids have to suffer for it? I am glad there is now something that says they don't have to.
I think it will be very interesting to see what effect this has in areas where there are several school districts within a few miles of one another. In my area, for example, there are three separate high schools within about five square miles, two of which are very high on the list and one (my home district) which is not. We would love the option to send our kids to one of the other schools (especially since we pay property taxes to one of the neighboring towns on our backyard, which happens to straddle the line and is an "undeveloped lot" on the tax rolls--giving us no rights whatsoever). Transportation would not be an issue in this or similar situations, most likely.
The question is, do you want it to be easier, or harder for them to beat the odds, assuming that they demonstrate that they are capable of doing so.
If that's the question then I choose easier. That was easy.
Now, as far as making that happen, the devil's always in the details and I'm not smart enough to revolutionize the current system or change the thinking of those who breed children but don't properly raise them.
Expecting NJ's political machines and NJEA union bosses to fix the social breakdown related to dysfunctional family issues is wishful thinking.
Life is not always fair, or perceived to be fair. I would recommend that you get your kids involved in online learning or local educational opportunities like classes at a JC. Just think, the money that you are saving on real estate can go toward the cost of these opportunities.
I'm in a failing district and who it's not fair to is the kids.
It's also unfair that most of the families don't care enough about it to go out and vote at school budget time.
Who says I'm saving on real estate? I lost on it and have accepted that much. I'm saying that this is a program that can benefit the kids that don't mind working hard in school or are in a poor school and they can see it. They have taken away honors classes in some junior high schools and a lot of kids are pretty upset about it, missing out on the challenge.
I'm not talking about disciplinary problem, failing kids, whose parents have their heads up their arse, thinking that the problem is all the other kids in the school, etc.
Thanks for the suggestions, however, I don't want my daughters to have to go to more hours of school per week. 2 of them are still in junior high. My high school student is already in an online learning class (VHS). I want them to enjoy the variety of activities/sports that they are involved in (private/travel sports, not school related), rather than sit in a classroom and learn what they should have throughout the course of the school day.
We teach our girls that life isn't fair and that they have to work hard - the motto is "anything worth having is worth working hard for".
Busing kids out of town doesn't fix the system. Instead of shipping kids to other school districts we should be trying to improve schools in "broken districts." I can't believe that this is the best solution to this problem. If some schools are that bad then they should be shut down and no children should have to attend these schools.
If it is not the school that are the problem but rather the students in those districts then really there are greater societal issues we should be more concerned about.
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