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Old 12-20-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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someone likes to pull the race card.

im not sure where i said anything about race. when do you decide its time to start calling people racist?
Well you keep putting down the cities , i'm not pull the race card for one race , but more like the diversity card......you don't seem to like Diversity. But like i said to a few forumers a few weeks ago , if you have nothing nice to say about certain cities or towns don't say it at all. People do not like what you say and it starts trouble so just stop it , start a blog if you want to say that.
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Old 12-20-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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people can walk around without worrying about getting shanked
"Shanking" seems to be of paramount concern in your life. You reference it often. Is it some sort of metaphor for your personal life?
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Well you keep putting down the cities , i'm not pull the race card for one race , but more like the diversity card......you don't seem to like Diversity. But like i said to a few forumers a few weeks ago , if you have nothing nice to say about certain cities or towns don't say it at all. People do not like what you say and it starts trouble so just stop it , start a blog if you want to say that.
so i dont like cities so i must be racist? thats absolutely ridiculous. im not opposed to or in favor of "diversity." that has nothing to do with my negative opinion regarding cities.

just because you keep saying that people shouldnt say negative things about cities doesnt mean we are going to listen. i have my opinion and you have yours. neither of us is obligated to always be positive or be quiet.
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"Shanking" seems to be of paramount concern in your life. You reference it often. Is it some sort of metaphor for your personal life?
haha its a funny word. i actually used it a lot this past weekend in puerto rico. we were there for my wife's high school reunion. some houses look like prisons over there. it was a lot of fun though.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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i definitely dont like cities. but some cities are better than others. JC is one of those that is on the lower end.

best buy, target, mall with some new stores; when you are boasting about that stuff you arent doing too well.
i was responding to the fact that you said it was "down and going". the buildings and new apartments and restaurants are all there. as well as the improvement of the retail environment. how exactly are they not doing well?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I have lived there and downtown is going strong. Nice neighborhoods, good restaurants and a feeling of safety. Forget the box stores I think the fact that Goldman built a building there and Trump put his name on a building there indicate the improvement is here to stay. Now, as for the rest of the city it is stable but not nearly as nice as downtown and I suspect it never will be. The Beacon was the big test to see if the rest of the city could replicate the waterfront's success. I think it is pretty clear it can't.
i think the economy's turn for the worse just delayed that expansion that was reaching other parts of the city. I wouldn't count those areas out yet, once the economy rebounds. Maybe it will never happen, but it's not a far stretch to assume that the area will continue to improve once there is more money to be spent on condos and businesses.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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As much as I offer my stereotypical "shore local" contempt for all that is north of the Raritan Bridge on the Parkway, I have to admit Hoboken is a cool place in the right context. I honestly think I'd have a ton of fun there, if not for the fact that I'm such a beach bum that I go into withdrawls if away from the ocean for more than a couple days.

Still, whoa, they gotta do something about the sewers over there. I visit my cousin who lives in Hoboken every so often and every time I walk to her building I'm assaulted by sewage funk. Those corrupt politicians up there gotta be good for somethin'! Start laying some pipes, guys!!
it's really only bad when it rains a bit or high tide time. certain parts of town are worse than others. i feel like it's not as difficult as people think to fix, but requires a combination of a few things, including pumps for the heavy rains.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Well you keep putting down the cities , i'm not pull the race card for one race , but more like the diversity card......you don't seem to like Diversity. But like i said to a few forumers a few weeks ago , if you have nothing nice to say about certain cities or towns don't say it at all. People do not like what you say and it starts trouble so just stop it , start a blog if you want to say that.
You're crazy. I've lived in a city before (Tampa, FL) and actually enjoyed it very much. Yes, there are bad parts, but overall it's a cool place to live with a lot of unique neighborhoods and sections. It's packed with people from all different races.

The difference between Jersey cities and cities in other places is that Jersey's cities all seem to be falling apart at the seams, the streets are full of garbage, old buildings are allowed to stay up instead of being torn down, everything just looks old, gray and miserable. Plus, our cities have almost NO sections where you wouldn't be concerned with the crime factor. Even the "good" neighborhoods aren't THAT good.

Plus, when I lived in Tampa, people could send their children to public schools and they'd be fine. If they lived in a nice part of town, they wouldn't have to worry. Can't say that about any of our cities, which is why the few middle class people who live in cities for commuting convenience flee as soon as they get married and want to start a family.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: NJ
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how exactly are they not doing well?
im just saying that if you are excited about getting a target or a best buy then you probably dont have a great situation.

ill try to do some research on jersey city thats based on stats and see what i see.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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You're crazy. I've lived in a city before (Tampa, FL) and actually enjoyed it very much. Yes, there are bad parts, but overall it's a cool place to live with a lot of unique neighborhoods and sections. It's packed with people from all different races.

The difference between Jersey cities and cities in other places is that Jersey's cities all seem to be falling apart at the seams, the streets are full of garbage, old buildings are allowed to stay up instead of being torn down, everything just looks old, gray and miserable. Plus, our cities have almost NO sections where you wouldn't be concerned with the crime factor. Even the "good" neighborhoods aren't THAT good.

Plus, when I lived in Tampa, people could send their children to public schools and they'd be fine. If they lived in a nice part of town, they wouldn't have to worry. Can't say that about any of our cities, which is why the few middle class people who live in cities for commuting convenience flee as soon as they get married and want to start a family.
The Same can be said about NYC , but rarely isn't. Tampa and cities outside the Northeast are larger and built differently. Cities in the Northeast are more Dense and have alot problems but all have brighter futures with a little push. We already seeing cities like Jersey City , Elizabeth , Paterson , New Brunswick and Hackensack Turn around , so i have no doubt that Newark , Irvington , East Orange and Camden won't. As for the garbage on the streets , that really isn't a huge issue , and every city has that problem , its more common near Highways. Crime can happen anywhere , but i think in the Urban areas its often overblown and hyped up. Florida Schools are terrible , alot of Private schools have been opening up over the years in the urban areas.....so Education has been shifting. Comparing Tampa or any Northeastern city to a city in the South doesn't work.....there cities are giant sprawly wastelands....Ours are compacted metropolises.....even our suburbs are different.
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