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Old 09-15-2018, 07:10 AM
 
Location: NJ
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My brother has a young family living above him in an apartment, man, woman, small child. The husband is a drunk, doesn't work, and they constantly fight all the time.

Yesterday, the wife came home from work, found the husband wasted with multiple loaded guns on the floor, one an AR15. Wife called the cops. Apparently the guy has these guns legally. He was taken to a rehab, but back the next day.

My brother is worried, there is only a sheet of wood separating him from this nut job with semi-automatic weapons.

Is there anything the apartment management can do to remove this crazy person? I would think he is a huge liability to the safety of the many renters in the building. What if this dude goes postal, would the apartment complex be at all responsible for allowing this man to live there under the circumstances?
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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One word, "move".
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Be concerned he has a car and driver's license as well.


Many career drinkers use fake DL, though many just drive without it.


Plenty of alcoholics own guns and are not a danger, this one, based on what is said re loaded guns, is indeed a concern.


Move, but be aware you may still bump into this guy on the road in an intoxicated state driving 2 tons of energy vs 1,600 ft pounds of muzzle energy from a 223.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Apparently, this guy was given the right to carry so there is probably no history of psychiatric illness (not to say he doesn't have problems now).

If he is that worried, he should move. If he stays, he should call police every single time he hears any kind of commotion in order to establish a history and pattern of disruptive behavior.

The apartment management has even less accountability than the folks who allowed him to legally possess the firearms.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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The apartment management has even less accountability than the folks who allowed him to legally possess the firearms.
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If existing laws--and enforcement of those laws--are allowing this unstable person to possess dangerous weapons, there is nothing that the apartment management can do about the situation.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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why did his wife call the police?
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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If you want to post a rant against AR-15's you may want to put it in the Political section.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Not ranting about AR15s. For one I thought they were illegal in NJ, but apparently not. This guy is an ex-marine, so I don't know if that has anything to do with him having this weapon.

The wife brings their child to daycare while she is at work and the drunk is home all day. At least she is smart enough to not leave the kid with him. When she came home with the kid the other day, he was drunk and combative, with loaded weapons on the floor. I guess she called the cops because she was scared.

Cops took him away when he tried to step on the guns trying to hide them, then proceeded to call the cops expletives. This is just a bad situation waiting to get much worst.

I posted this to see if the apartment complex was responsible in any way and if there was anything they could do to remove this guy. Seems like a huge liability for them.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Earth
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move


its going to be on nj.com one day
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sounds like a lot of speculation. How do you know they were loaded? Next, while some States have "bans" against "assault weapons" there are many easy ways to legally side step these stupid bans. We have a "ban" here in California but with some simple modifications I can still buy whatever I want at any local gun store.

If you are that paranoid you might want to purchase some firearms yourself and get trained on how to use them or at least go to a range and educate yourself so you aren't afraid of an inanimate object. Last, there are no real laws against drinking and shooting so long as the shooting is in a legal area. So no, the complex is not liable for someone not breaking any laws.
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