Mapping the pipeline: Where Spectra proposes to run controversial natural gas line (Hoboken: condo, street)
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There are no guarantees, there is no absolute safety, there is no way to totally insulate from risk. The key is a balance. But make no mistake. We must have some risk. We must allow some deaths. We must allow some pollution. There is no choice. It has to be reasonable, but life will never be risk free or trouble free.
I guess it's ok to start with your family and kids first then.
The real question is: If this does NOT really benefit NJ, then why exactly are they building the pipelines in NJ?
Becuz were often used for a shortcut to NYC , it saves them 100s miles....but at what cost. I have no problem with Power lines , that is something we can use in an Emergency like a regional Blackout.... But Pipelines are something entirely different. We do have alot , we do use them , this one is for NYC , so why not reroute it through SI and Brooklyn...
{QUOTE}{Gas lines, electrical lines, nuclear power plants, cell towers, offshore oil wells, Alaskan oil wells, etc. All examples of things we need to develop to compete with the rest of the world and grow our economy. And all things that need to be allowed reasonably freely without regard to local parochial interests. NIMBY has already made us a second rate country. We must not allow overregulation to push us even further backwards.
Better to have less regulation, more profits, more development, more money, more success. A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!} {QUOTE}
Completely unacceptable! There is enough solar energy, and wind energy to supply the world for generations. This is the direction we should be moving toward. In the last 75 years, we have managed to pollute the world to the point where it is irreparable. The greed, the successes and the development you speak of is of little worth in comparison to the threat to living things, and this living planet. In response to the few deaths....EVERY accident is avoidable.
Completely unacceptable! There is enough solar energy, and wind energy to supply the world for generations. This is the direction we should be moving toward. In the last 75 years, we have managed to pollute the world to the point where it is irreparable. The greed, the successes and the development you speak of is of little worth in comparison to the threat to living things, and this living planet. In response to the few deaths....EVERY accident is avoidable.
Utter nonsense. Everything must have balance. Pollution can be minimized, but not avoided. Deaths can be minimized, but not avoided. We must never stifle progress with being overly concerned with the environment. We ARE the environment. Man is natural. Everything he does is natural. Every chemical he produces is natural. There is no nature apart from man. Man IS nature.
The environmental Green movement has gone overboard and is a threat to mankind unless properly attenuated by common sense. Certainly "Green" types can offer their opinions and where those opinions are corroborated by data and make logical sense, they can be integrated with progress and forward movement.
However, where the Green movement goes overboard and seeks to stop progress through the application of irrational fear, such as in the fallacy of global warming and climate change, common sense and reality must be emphasized. There is some good in the Green movement, and a LOT OF BAD. Logical citizens must separate the good, integrate it where it makes sense, and DUMP THE REST.
Building nuclear plants, and underground gas lines, and bigger electrical towers in existing rights-of-way containing smaller electrical towers, and drilling for new oil in Alaska and offshore? All examples of activities that are necessary and proper. All examples of activities that should be done with care, but MUST BE DONE to move our society forward. We must never fear what will happen should we undertake progress. We must prepare for risk, minimize adverse risk where possible, and move forward, in the spirit of those that achieved greatness by doing just that. Such as the astronauts who landed on the Moon in the face of tremendous risk and danger. Or the explorers who boarded ships for the New World in the face of unknowable perils laying just over the horizon.
Our heroes need to remain the astronauts and the inventors and the innovators and the risk-takers and the great explorers, not the mediocrities, not the Al Gores and Michael Moores of the world.
Let's build and achieve greatness, not "conserve" phony resources invented by the weak to stifle our magnificence.
Better to have less regulation, more profits, more development, more money, more success. A few abuses and a few accidents will happen along the way. Too bad, we can deal with those. Lets underregulate and get things moving!
...because deregulation of the financial services industry and the airlines worked so well?
Why are folks so up in arms over this tunnel, when we all spend pretty much our entire lives going about our daily business on top of millions of miles of natural gas pipelines? There really is no more inherent risk to this pipeline than there is from the one that runs into your home. So if we aren't protesting in the streets (we're actually huddled in our homes/offices warmed by natural gas) over pipelines in general, why get all worked up over this one?
There are no guarantees, there is no absolute safety, there is no way to totally insulate from risk. The key is a balance. But make no mistake. We must have some risk. We must allow some deaths. We must allow some pollution. There is no choice. It has to be reasonable, but life will never be risk free or trouble free.
typical juvenile libertarian position. You'll understand what us adults are talking about here when you grow up someday.
Don't intend to drift off topic here, but a 'shout out' is due to Spectra's GIS mapping division for putting together an incredibly intuitive map here. The ability to construct something like this requires a lot of right-brain skills. Just marveling aloud, seeing this is what I do for a living....
Back to topic at hand.....
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