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Old 02-15-2011, 07:23 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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No, that's actually true. People did not shower every day until relatively recently in the U.S.

I agree that a smaller home is better with one parent home.
people also shouldn't bother washing their hair every day, but that only became common when advertising convinced people they needed to shampoo and contioner regularly. it's actually bad for your scalp to wash it every day. try convincing someone of that today and they'll never be able to admit it, because they've been sold the idea that they will smell and be greasy if they don't. but then ask a good hair stylist what he/she thinks...
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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people also shouldn't bother washing their hair every day, but that only became common when advertising convinced people they needed to shampoo and contioner regularly. it's actually bad for your scalp to wash it every day. try convincing someone of that today and they'll never be able to admit it, because they've been sold the idea that they will smell and be greasy if they don't. but then ask a good hair stylist what he/she thinks...
Right. As we got more of everything, the standards went up, and it's circular, chicken or the egg, kwim. When washing machines were invented, all of a sudden people needed a freshly-washed set of clothes every day. So we're still overwhelmed by our laundry. That kind of thing.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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haha i didnt think of it that way. i think it has to do with the fact that back then it was not just acceptable to be a 2 parent/1 stay at home family, it was what was expected. so people had to make do with less.
i think ann is pointing out that people just bought less stuff back in the day because of the time. i don't think it was necessarily because people had 1 parent stay at home and had less money, though it's probably a factor...but moreso the fact that when men went out of the house, they worse slacks, a jacket, a shirt, and a tie. women wore dresses. there were no denim jeans and khakis and so on. style was simpler. people needed less. when i was growing up, i didn't have a ton of clothes because i went to private school. couple of pairs of khakis, button down shirts, sport coats...i didn't have 10 pairs of jeans like my friends at public school did because my style was simply uniform for school, khakis on a friday night. honestly, i wish now that my work clothes could carry over to clothes i'd wear normally during the week...but styles are different now. so some things are just changes over time, so now we buy more stuff due to those changes. some things are because we have 2 incomes, but i'd attribute less of my purchases to that.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:31 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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my brother's baby mama saw some of the houses we were looking at when we were looking around for a home. she said that they were too big and they dont need that much space. yeah, well they paid 825k for a tiny nothing in manhattan. i think in their case they tailored their preferences to what they could get where they wanted to live.
maybe, but i know a lot of people that would rather be in an apartment with no maintenance worries than own even a small house with a small yard to cut and weed and such. different strokes...
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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My house is too big I will admit. First we were in a 1,000 sf condo, with kids. Too small. We were just busting out of it.

Then we got a 1,700 sf house....just right.

Now we are in a 2,400 sf house plus a finished basement which adds another 400 square feet, plus a two car garage. Too big for my taste. But then there are other things I like about it, like high ceilings, lots of big windows, lots of storage, a big kitchen. And it's (relatively) new.

If I can't easily clean it myself (which I can't in this house), then it's too big for me.
2400 sq ft sounds like a good size these days. finishing the basement is a nice project to do, even if you don't use it much. i think for my tatse, your sized house is about as large as i'd ever want to go for the same reason...cleaning it, and heating/cooling it, not to mention furnishing it! haha. it's going to take me a few years to furnish our 4 bedroom 1800 sq ft place. i can't imagine more!
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Right. As we got more of everything, the standards went up, and it's circular, chicken or the egg, kwim. When washing machines were invented, all of a sudden people needed a freshly-washed set of clothes every day. So we're still overwhelmed by our laundry. That kind of thing.
should i be ashamed to admit that i only wash my jeans a couple times per year? it's bad for denim to wash frequently, and they really don't get dirty except in the winter with all the snow/salt/slush. i read it in some men's style magazine years ago. plus...they are more comfortable that way and last much longer!
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:56 AM
 
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2400 sq ft sounds like a good size these days. finishing the basement is a nice project to do, even if you don't use it much. i think for my tatse, your sized house is about as large as i'd ever want to go for the same reason...cleaning it, and heating/cooling it, not to mention furnishing it! haha. it's going to take me a few years to furnish our 4 bedroom 1800 sq ft place. i can't imagine more!
Yeah, the heating and cooling is expensive. And furniture. We don't have fancy furniture at all, except a somewhat nice dining room set because kids just wreck everything anyway.

The basement is nice to have though.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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i think ann is pointing out that people just bought less stuff back in the day because of the time. i don't think it was necessarily because people had 1 parent stay at home and had less money, though it's probably a factor...but moreso the fact that when men went out of the house, they worse slacks, a jacket, a shirt, and a tie. women wore dresses.
In the past, people didn't have hangers for their clothes, they had a few hooks. For their entire wardrobe. If you look in the older homes, like from the 1920s, you can see that whatever closets are there were designed for hooks, not hangers.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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I think more important than overall size is layout. This has been hashed out in quite a few different threads on the real estate forum. I'd take a well laid out 1,200 over a poorly laid out 1,800. I guess the point is that size isn't necessarily the ultimate determiner. My house is 2,200 for a family of 5 and has a great layout, so it feels bigger than it actually is. When we were shopping there were houses that were larger in our budget, but the layout just wasn't as good.

As for why homes are getting bigger, I think those reasons have been well spelled out. I don't think it's a change in peoples attitudes as much as it has been a change in what we put in our homes and how much "stuff" people have these days.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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lol in the winter i can go 3-4 days easy without taking a shower! but i do not show up in person for my job.

we just bought a 650 sq ft condo coming from a 850 sq ft house with 450 sq ft finished basement, garage and shed. I feel so much less stressed in the condo. So much less crap to shuffle around, find homes for etc. it is just clean and simple. have what you need and want and not a ton of extra junk.

our old house is not too cheap to heat... maybe up to $250/month in the winter.
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