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The solution is simple, vote more Republicans into the State Legislature and put pressure on them to increase worker contributions into their health plans and pensions. It's not rocket science people, these people have been at war with ordinary citizens for the past 20 years and you people have been letting yourselves get clobbered. One gets the impression that NJ is full of people with French ancestory.
Agree, to help the current underfunded situation NJ needs to increase employee contributions. Arizona just increased employee contributions to 10.5 percent from 9.6 percent.
First of all I am very mad at you as you have yet to tell me what I should do to plan for the horrible future we have lined up fo us.
Secondly after all the complaining you do make sure you come back as a public worker in your next life since they have such a great deal.
its hard to be certain as to how to prepare, im doing what i can but im not comfortable advising people on what to do.
hopefully by the time my next life comes around there wont be any public workers or at least the ones that are still around have a deal that is more aligned with the private sector. like i have pointed out, it seems like we are coming to a point where we will have no teachers but the costs will still be sky high due to retirement benefits. its not a sustainable situation.
Not a chance but there are some good ideas being thrown out here, imo.
NJ needs a sea change in how it functions politically and financially.
As long as the courts are allowed to legislate and the assembly's legislative power is concentrated in the urban areas I don't see NJ having much of a chance in spite of all of the wealth and talent at its disposal.
With Christies cuts do you think your property taxes will go down?
No, but services sure will. I think in a year or two, we're ALL going to be in agreement that we should have been careful what we'd wished for.
That'll work out well, as then you'll be able to move to another state and pay far less tax for the same services as you get in NJ. After all, everyone says the reason they're willing to pay the high taxes in NJ is because of all the great services and the schools. Once the service level drops and the schools become mediocre, you'll be able to live anywhere else and get the same level of services for half the price!
The solution is simple, vote more Republicans into the State Legislature and put pressure on them to increase worker contributions into their health plans and pensions. It's not rocket science people, these people have been at war with ordinary citizens for the past 20 years and you people have been letting yourselves get clobbered. One gets the impression that NJ is full of people with French ancestory.
100% correct people making 40 to 60k are the problem. How dare these people make a lower middle class wage. They should work for minimum wage. Is this the best you can come up with? How is it other states do it yet we have such a hard time? Ever wonder where all the money goes? I do.
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Agree, to help the current underfunded situation NJ needs to increase employee contributions. Arizona just increased employee contributions to 10.5 percent from 9.6 percent.
Why?
The employee payments have come out of their pay for decades. They met their obligation. The state has failed to pay since Christie Whitman, making the pension fund short by those amounts plus all interest that would have accrued.
Who's fault is the shortfall?The state's.They had a contractual obligation to make those payments & did not.
For whatever reason you've taken this to the NC board & got shot down there. Seems that what you didn't know is that the non-union state employees in NC have pretty much the same set up, although they have a 401K in addition to the pension. No problem there, because the state has met their obligations. So, not only did you get shot down, that proves that the union is not the problem.
One way to get any kind of meaningful tax relief is through school district consolidation.
NJ needs 21 school districts not 200-300 or whatever they have now.
So who is going to be the first school district to dump it's Superintendent so they can join in with the rest of the schools in that County and elect just one Super and one school board?
Sadly never gonna happen.
bingo.
the wealthy districts will NEVER consider consolidation and they have the means ($$$$) to prevent it, while screaming about taxes out the other side of their mouths.
The employee payments have come out of their pay for decades. They met their obligation. The state has failed to pay since Christie Whitman, making the pension fund short by those amounts plus all interest that would have accrued.
Who's fault is the shortfall?The state's.They had a contractual obligation to make those payments & did not.
For whatever reason you've taken this to the NC board & got shot down there. Seems that what you didn't know is that the non-union state employees in NC have pretty much the same set up, although they have a 401K in addition to the pension. No problem there, because the state has met their obligations. So, not only did you get shot down, that proves that the union is not the problem.
bingo #2. it's easy to attack the middle class and the unions, and NJ residents are buying it hook line and sinker.
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bingo #2. it's easy to attack the middle class and the unions, and NJ residents are buying it hook line and sinker.
That poster has taken the exact same rants to a thread on the NC board & was soundly shut down by 2 natives. The retirement for the non-union NC state employees is almost identical. However, the State of NC has met its obligations, so the pension fund is sound, just as NJ's used to be.
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