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Old 08-19-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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New Jersey’s Shrinking Commitment to Transit | Mobilizing the Region

This is outrageous , politicians need to stop reducing it....this state needs to invest more in Transit. Ridership has grown by at least 400,000+ this past decade and is growing but the investment in the system has not.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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You would think a state that is the most densely populated in the country, located in the heart of the Northeast Corridor, and is located right between to of the largest cities in the entire East Coast would be be shrinking its commitment on transit. Sometimes I just don't understand this state. lol.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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NJ Transit, as well as other public transportation like MTA must not use a union.

I just don't understand why I see 3 ticket clerks in a train that only have 2 carts running in the weekend. There maybe like 10 total passengers.

I think they get pay like 50 or 60k a year for punching ticket.
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Old 08-19-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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You would think a state that is the most densely populated in the country, located in the heart of the Northeast Corridor, and is located right between to of the largest cities in the entire East Coast would be be shrinking its commitment on transit. Sometimes I just don't understand this state. lol.
Actually most of the dense states in the NE except around the DC region are shriking there Transit budgets even though all the systems have seen rapid growth... Septa badly needs to upgraded and extended but is extremely neglected which is a shame since with a few upgrades and expansions it can be one the better systems.... Hopefully this decline will change this decade along with NY and MA declines. CT , MD ,NOVA ,and DC are investing a big chunk into Transit... A infill program was recently cut in this state even though it was popular and successful. Hopefully that returns in next years budget , the push for Rail projects from both parties has been increasing but funding is an issue and this issue needs to be resolved..

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NJ Transit, as well as other public transportation like MTA must not use a union.

I just don't understand why I see 3 ticket clerks in a train that only have 2 carts running in the weekend. There maybe like 10 total passengers.

I think they get pay like 50 or 60k a year for punching ticket.
Well then your safety will be at risk , Conductors are there for protection and they do other things beside ticket punching. Most of the work is done when the train enters the Yard and or Terminal. 50-60k is barely livable in this region. Theres rarely a time whens there's 10 ppl per train , there's a min of 50 most of the time after a certain point.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: East Rutherford, NJ
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A real shame, and it's not like the roadways are getting any better. I'm no longer a transit commuter but still a transit/rail fan and advocate, I'd still love to see it get what it deserves, it's really sad. There's a reason the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail line was named such, yet it doesn't enter Bergen County.

There's a lot of great proposed, planned and some underway plans, many of which Nexis has outlined in awesome detail. I'd love to see even just one of these actually turn into a fully operational addition to NJT's system.

Fingers crossed for the future I guess...
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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I just don't understand why I see 3 ticket clerks in a train that only have 2 carts running in the weekend. There maybe like 10 total passengers.
That's operating expense; the article concerns capital expense. And the reason transit's share of capital expense is dropping is big capital expenditures (e.g. the RiverLine) have been done, whereas many of the roads have basically been allowed to rot and now they're being forced to at least plan to do something about them (not that they actually will).
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:19 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Actually there are a few large scale Rail projects left mostly servicing the burbs which should make them get built faster , the harder Urban ones have all been done or canceled. The Bus system upgrades are all done aswell....
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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You would think a state that is the most densely populated in the country, located in the heart of the Northeast Corridor, and is located right between to of the largest cities in the entire East Coast would be be shrinking its commitment on transit. Sometimes I just don't understand this state. lol.
IF it makes sense they don't do it
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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Transit there is already excellent. Times are hard. Everyone gets a hair cut.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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New Jersey’s Shrinking Commitment to Transit | Mobilizing the Region

This is outrageous , politicians need to stop reducing it....this state needs to invest more in Transit. Ridership has grown by at least 400,000+ this past decade and is growing but the investment in the system has not.
so the graph is showing total NJDOT spending....it seems like the $ amount has stayed about the same since 2004, but total spending has gone from 2.5 -> 3.5 over that time period. my guess is this has a lot to do with the large projects at the holland tunnel exit, the pulaski skyway, and the NJTP below exit 8? not saying it's right, and i would love to see more dollars going to transit to upgrade the system as well, but i'm a but confused about the "shrinking" committment?
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