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I can second the thing about the bus. I love trains but I don't want to take any buses. The idea of it just conjures up a feeling of crappiness, poverty, etc. Buses are where people get stabbed.
Trains on the other hand are huge, so there's plenty of room, and the ride is amazingly smooth. And it's much faster going somewhere since there's no traffic. And it's got a wonderful view. Can be in downtown Manhattan in 40 minutes. You can ride a train and you don't feel like a poor person/are in some crappy place
I know I'm not just imaginging things/it's not just me about the bus, because on shows the bus is always the butt of jokes. I remember an episode of It's always sunny in philadelphia, where Dee has to take the bus, she hates it and is mortified. Some huge fat guy won't move, and she's talking to him "Please move, Please move", then the guy just pukes a little onto his own shirt with a dead-eye stare.
Or on Invader Zim I remember there's a pretty funny similar type of scene when one of the character has to take the bus.
Is that elitist? I dunno, maybe. But I grew up in Bergen County, so that's how I feel. I'd imagine that's how a lot of other people here feel too, which matters since Bergen county is New Jersey's most populous.
I dunno-
Have you ever taken the h/b light rail from, say, port imperial to liberty state park? That thing just CRAWLS. The schedule says somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 minutes, but i've found it more like 40+. Same /w the newark light rail. I took it from broad street station to newark penn the other day. besides the fact that I had to wait 20 mins for it (weekday, early evening, still rush hour), it took forever.
I'm a huge fan of public transit, but light rail, to me, seems like a cop-out. I don't want to compare apples to oranges, but the NYC subway (which, when compared to other trasnit systems around the world, is generally pretty crappy) comes every 3-5 mins during rush hour, and you can get from times square to WTC in 15 mins, for example.
I dunno-
Have you ever taken the h/b light rail from, say, port imperial to liberty state park? That thing just CRAWLS. The schedule says somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 minutes, but i've found it more like 40+. Same /w the newark light rail. I took it from broad street station to newark penn the other day. besides the fact that I had to wait 20 mins for it (weekday, early evening, still rush hour), it took forever.
I'm a huge fan of public transit, but light rail, to me, seems like a cop-out. I don't want to compare apples to oranges, but the NYC subway (which, when compared to other trasnit systems around the world, is generally pretty crappy) comes every 3-5 mins during rush hour, and you can get from times square to WTC in 15 mins, for example.
Well the Main line of the Newark light Rail is fast. The Board Street branch is indeed very slow , its like 5mph for most of the route but still gets 6-8,000 daily riders. LRT is often built in places where you won't meet the need for Heavy Rail which is 150-200,000 in this region. Ive taken the LRT numerous times , its faster then the surrounding streets , buses and driving... you can go from one end of Hoboken to the Other in 5 mins , can't do that by car or bus. Almost every European city has a LRT system , and most Canadian cities do aswell , its cheaper , it can more then a bus is very attractive. The Subway is only built in High Density areas , like NYC or Downtown Jersey City or Philly.....and you cannot compare the subway to LRT too different leagues... There also a decent amount of slow subway lines in this region....and there a few terrible lines in terms of service....service like 2x and hr.... Ride the Riverline , that will change your mind on LRT or the Main line of the Newark LRT.
Newark Light Rail is like a subway. It's underground and stops at all the universities (Rutgers, NJIT, UMDNJ), along with access to Prudential Center, Newark Penn and Performing Arts Center. It does not stop for intersections since it's underground.
There are 2 segments of the light rail. The one that serves NJPAC stops for traffic lights; that thing is slower than the Go28 bus. The underground/main line also stops for lights at Orange St, Franklin Ave and Silver Lake, but the waits are tame compared to the Broad Street line. Don't know why they couldn't have built a tunnel under Broad/Mulberry Streets with stops at the arena, City Hall and later on the airport instead of a 10-minute shuttle ride.
There are 2 segments of the light rail. The one that serves NJPAC stops for traffic lights; that thing is slower than the Go28 bus. The underground/main line also stops for lights at Orange St, Franklin Ave and Silver Lake, but the waits are tame compared to the Broad Street line. Don't know why they couldn't have built a tunnel under Broad/Mulberry Streets with stops at the arena, City Hall and later on the airport instead of a 10-minute shuttle ride.
Probably due to costs and the time it would take to do that. (See also: Why the second avenue subway in NYC.)
Although, I fully agree that the Broad St. branch is ridiculously slow and it really doesn't run nearly frequently enough during peak times. I take class at the business school building and it's generally quicker to either walk to Penn or walk to the Washington St station on the other side of campus than to catch the Broad St line to Penn. Frankly, if I'm not wearing heels and it's daytime that's what I do.
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