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Old 11-03-2011, 10:15 AM
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Latest in push for nanny state: Rep. Frank Pallone (D, NJ) wants to ban Major League Baseball players from chewing tobacco when they can be seen.

AP NewsBreak: Democrats urge baseball to test for HGH and ban chewing tobacco

No one doubts that chewing tobacco can have harmful effects; so can ice cream if you eat too much. The point the nanny staters don't seem to realize is that any activity or freedom, from chewing tobacco to owning a gun to free speech can be abused. It is not the right of government to ban activities because some people MIGHT abuse them or they MIGHT influence others. It only has the right to sanction those activities that DO infringe on the rights of others.

New Jersey politicians seem to be trying to take the lead in making NJ the leading nanny state.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:53 AM
Location: NJ
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Would be nice to post all legislative proposals and their sponsors to get an insight into the politician hoping for re-election.

This proposed legislation appears intended to enhance the reputation of its sponsor. Passage of obscure and novel laws is an abuse of the legislative process and creates criminals where they dod not exist. Imagine if you can, and it would not be difficult, for an activist judge or biased prosecutor to procsecute citizens using obscure laws in order to hide their prejudiced intent.

Too many feel good laws chip away at our freedom. It is bad enough each criminal act has leads to further restrictive legislation. Our freedom is the real cost of crime.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:55 PM
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This is really dumb.

Especially since NJ does not even have any pro baseball teams
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:25 PM
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yeah it's really annoying how they keep pushing more and more nannyist legislation.

And it isn't even an esoteric thing anymore. It's stuff that actually affects us in our daily lives.

What was the most recent one? Skiing without a helmet banned for kids? That's gonna be an issue for me if/when I teach my kids to ski (when I make some kids).
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:44 PM
Location: NJ
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Amazing that this is what they spend their time on.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:00 PM
Location: Elsewhere
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The Star Ledger had an article the other day on voter apathy in NJ. Do these people really wonder why the turnout is so low?

1) Most of you who are running for office appear to be completely out of touch with reality.
2)We don't believe you most of the time.
3) You all appear to be the same person. You just look different.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:08 PM
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Wasn't there previously some sort of drive to prevent baseball players from scratching their 'nads?
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:24 PM
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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I think all this 'bs' legislation, like the time wasted on reiterating 'in god we trust' as the nation's motto - is just hoping to distract us from the only true issue of the day, how politicians and business colluded to allow our jobs to slip away and to put the economy in ruins.

They want to get elected and hope they can distract us and make us argue about these useless side issues.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:40 PM
Location: NJ
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we made it a full time job, they need to do things to fill the time and find new ways to attract bribery.
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