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Old 04-02-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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Newark follows the definition of a satellite city of NYC than a suburb; of which, even by Census definition it isn't; it's employment/historical base is too significant. A suburb usually is a result of the wealth or base of a nearby larger city and generally doesn't create its own wealth. Newark has enough of its own business presence that doesn't rely 100% on NYC.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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NYC is a suburb of Newark!
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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If Newark were in any other state it would be a major city. But being so close to NYC its sort of is in the shadows. To some extent Philadelphia is overshadowed by NYC. As another poster pointed out NYC is unique not only to the US but in the world. It is one a handful of "world cities" like Tokyo.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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If Newark were in any other state it would be a major city. But being so close to NYC its sort of is in the shadows. To some extent Philadelphia is overshadowed by NYC. As another poster pointed out NYC is unique not only to the US but in the world. It is one a handful of "world cities" like Tokyo.
I found an article on NorthJersey.com that talks about the drawing power of country music in the Tri-State area.

Check it out:

Kenny Chesney brings country twang to the Meadowlands - NorthJersey.com

Near the bottom of the article, it talks about Taylor Swift's four sold-out concerts at the Prudential Center. The article states that "...there's room for a little twang in the shadow of the Big Apple".

See? The MSM does have the habit of referring to Newark as a city "situated in NYC's shadow".
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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I found an article on NorthJersey.com that talks about the drawing power of country music in the Tri-State area.

Check it out:

Kenny Chesney brings country twang to the Meadowlands - NorthJersey.com

Near the bottom of the article, it talks about Taylor Swift's four sold-out concerts at the Prudential Center. The article states that "...there's room for a little twang in the shadow of the Big Apple".

See? The MSM does have the habit of referring to Newark as a city "situated in NYC's shadow".
Well, for what it's worth, the MSM is also situated in NYC itself.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Hey everyone. I currently live in North Texas. However, I have friends who live in and around the New York City metropolitan area. I understand that much of North Jersey, the Hudson River Valley, southwestern Connecticut, and Long Island consist of areas that are considered suburbs of NYC.

Now Newark is the biggest city in New Jersey. It has its own downtown area, financial core, and high-rise skyscrapers.

Is Newark still a suburb of NYC?

Or is Newark a city that has its own individual identity?

Tri-State area residents will sometimes tell outsiders that the Meadowlands Sports Complex is located "in the shadow of NYC". They also say the same for Uniondale on Long Island.

So physically and geographically speaking- Is Newark also situated "in the shadow of NYC"?

Or is Newark the Fort Worth to NYC's Dallas?
Newark has historically been independent of New York City. It was the second largest city in America in terms of factories. Only Detroit had more factories, while NYC has always been a banking center. New Yorkers often referred to Newark as New Yorks warehouse "of industrial Arts".
Newark almost snagged the DowJones NYSE from NYC in 1929. There were plans for a Greater Newark to match greater NYC.
Unfortunately, NJ Governors vetoed many annexation Bills. Unlike most states where the major city is allowed to annex by fiat to stay competitive, NJ forbade Newark from enforced annexations,forcing the city to beg surrounding suburbs to join its cause. None, except Vailsburg,and Woodside,joined.
as a result of this, every major city in America has caught up to, and surpassed Newark in territory and population.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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People who live outside of the area often can't wrap their head around this. Manhattan is the center of the entire metropolitan area. One mile west, across the Hudson River, you are officially into another state, and outside "the city", but things do not get suburban by any means until many miles outward from this "metropolitan center" which is Manhattan. By the way, this goes in all directions outside of Manhattan. You have to go a long ways before things start looking and feeling "suburban".

So no, Newark is not a suburb of NYC. It's a cog in the massive urban machine that is the NYC area.

I haven't seen this in the US in any other metropolitan area, so I understand why it's difficult for outsiders to comprehend. Heck, it's hard for some people who LIVE here to understand. This area is extremely provencial.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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Hey we didn't start the division. New Yorkers let us know every day that Jersey is an abyss.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hey we didn't start the division. New Yorkers let us know every day that Jersey is an abyss.
And yet they move here anyway.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: pennsauken
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True. Lol. They move here and complain all day.
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