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Old 06-29-2012, 07:26 PM
 
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I haven't bought a new car in 7 years, last time was a nightmarish experience in Queens, NY (don't ever shop at Paragon Honda). Hoping to avoid the same problem this time around. Looking to buy a Ford, or a used car so any recommendation in Union county or nearby will be greatly appreciated!
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Planet Honda...But make sure not to fall into trap as they try to sell you lot of warranties and some other junk..After all, all dealers are same
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:12 PM
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I am not sure if there is a such a thing as a good car dealership.
I agree Paragon Honda sales is horrible but I have seen worse.... much worse.

Sorry I can't be of help but I have yet to meet a car dealer I would recommend.
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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If you are looking for used you need to get a really good feel for the price of the vehicle you are looking to buy. Know what he bluebook value is. Know what similar vehicles are going for. Look at 3-4-5 different places to get an idea of their stock and asking prices. Check through craigslist all over the state. Then, find a place selling the vehicle you want for near the price you want.

Personally, I would never buy a new car again. It looses too much value too quickly so its really not worth the money they ask for it. You can get VERY good cars that are only 2-4 years old for MUCH MUCH less than a new car and be just as reliable. The money you save will easily pay for minor blemishes and or repairs.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:32 AM
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If you are looking for used you need to get a really good feel for the price of the vehicle you are looking to buy. Know what he bluebook value is. Know what similar vehicles are going for. Look at 3-4-5 different places to get an idea of their stock and asking prices. Check through craigslist all over the state. Then, find a place selling the vehicle you want for near the price you want.

Personally, I would never buy a new car again. It looses too much value too quickly so its really not worth the money they ask for it. You can get VERY good cars that are only 2-4 years old for MUCH MUCH less than a new car and be just as reliable. The money you save will easily pay for minor blemishes and or repairs.
I would agree on most parts of what you have said but the only problem I have with buying used cars is that you really don't know what that car has been through. Car Fax is not 100% accurate. These days, the body shops and mechanics do such a good job in repairing, the untrained eye will be not be able to detect any abnormalities in the vehicle. Now the problem is not much about whether or not the car will last but will become an issue when you trade-in or sell that car at a later point. If they detect any repair on the frame of the car, that really drives down the value of the car. Now, if you drive that car until it dies, no problem there. But like I said, it will become an issue when you trade in or sell that car.

My suggestion would be to thoroughly inspect that used car with a professional before making that purchase.

Buying a new car is more of a peace of mind for me and I am not sure if you can put a dollar amount to that.

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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Car Fax is not 100% accurate.
Buying a new car is more of a peace of mind for me and I am not sure if you can put a dollar amount to that.

In reality, Car Fax is not even 50% accurate!
Between the vital information that is omitted in so many cases, and the information that is incorrect in some other cases, I think that anyone relying on Car Fax is...foolish.

However, I do agree with you about buying new, as opposed to buying a used car. I don't want a car that has been poorly-maintained, and in many cases with used cars, you have no way of knowing how well (or how poorly) the car was maintained by the previous owner(s). Additionally, you have no way of knowing how many times they may have jammed the tires into a curb, or how often they actually checked the oil, or whether they wailed the hell out of the engine prior to warm-up, or...

Yes, I will pay more for a pristine, new car, but at least I know that my maintenance habits and my driving style will be the only ones to affect the longevity of the car.

In a similar vein, you might be able to find a good, faithful, disease-fee wife at a house of ill repute.
However, your odds of finding a good, faithful, disease-free wife will be much better if you avoid places like that when searching for your bride.
The used car market is at least somewhat analogous to a house of ill repute, IMHO.

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Old 07-12-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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In a similar vein, you might be able to find a good, faithful, disease-fee wife at a house of ill repute.
However, your odds of finding a good, faithful, disease-free wife will be much better if you avoid places like that when searching for your bride.
The used car market is at least somewhat analogous to a house of ill repute, IMHO.

It wont let me rep you again so... +1
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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In reality, Car Fax is not even 50% accurate!
Between the vital information that is omitted in so many cases, and the information that is incorrect in some other cases, I think that anyone relying on Car Fax is...foolish.

However, I do agree with you about buying new, as opposed to buying a used car. I don't want a car that has been poorly-maintained, and in many cases with used cars, you have no way of knowing how well (or how poorly) the car was maintained by the previous owner(s). Additionally, you have no way of knowing how many times they may have jammed the tires into a curb, or how often they actually checked the oil, or whether they wailed the hell out of the engine prior to warm-up, or...

Yes, I will pay more for a pristine, new car, but at least I know that my maintenance habits and my driving style will be the only ones to affect the longevity of the car.

I dont think I will ever purchase a new car. A $25,000 car loses half its value after 3-4 years and 45k miles. I like to be the guy who buys it at that point. You still get what is going to be a very reliable car for 8-10 years to come.

Cars are just generally more well made nowadays then they used to be.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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Cars are just generally more well made nowadays then they used to be.
That is true.
However, lax maintenance will take its inevitable toll of any car, no matter how well it was made.

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Old 07-13-2012, 08:39 AM
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I dont think I will ever purchase a new car. A $25,000 car loses half its value after 3-4 years and 45k miles. I like to be the guy who buys it at that point. You still get what is going to be a very reliable car for 8-10 years to come.

Cars are just generally more well made nowadays then they used to be.
I think you also have to take into consideration how that 3-4yr old car got on the used car lot.
Was it a lease or a trade in? My guess is that it's most likely a leased car that was turned in.

Most people I know that leases, does not know the definition of maintenance or care to know. They will do the minimum as long as the car runs. It's basically a rental car... why would you care?
I have a friend who leased a porsche cayenne and this car requires 91 octane gas.
Guess what he puts? You got it... its running on octane 89!

You can argue about how this affects the car but I certainly would not want to buy this car.

Food for thought.
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