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Old 07-31-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Hi,
We live in Somerset off of 27South (close to North Brunswick). Both me and my husband need to commute to North Jersey (Jersey city, Montvale) respectively.
We are looking to move into a single family house around 700K-800K (new construction). We are seriously considering "Flanders/ Mount Olive" township ie Morris Hunt community.

Any advise would be helpful to make our decision. We are looking at the following factors :

1. What will this mean in terms of our current commute ? The location we are looking at i.e. Morris Hunt, is 3 minutes away from 80W (exit 27A)

2. What about Commute to City (NYC) for work- tomorrow, if we need to from Flanders.How bad could it get ?What is the average commute time to city ? Anyone doing it already ? Are train lines more frequent ? Can we drive instead?

3. School district . How good is it ? I see that Mount Olive is progressing upward in NJ top 100 schools for the past few years. However, unsure if it is great ?

4. Property Taxes in flanders/Mount Olive township area , how are they?

5. Are there any Asian- Indian communities in and around this area? Parsipanny has a lot of Indian community. Unsure of Asian - Indian communities in this area.



Would be good if folks from this neighborhood can give us more color.
Thanks
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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The key to commuting from this location is the time you depart. If you are on Route 80 before 6AM, you will have a relatively easy commute. But it all goes downhill quickly past 6AM. By 6:20 at Exit 27A, you will be in for tons of congestion and a very long commute. Especially once school starts. The September-June commute is hellacious. In the summer it gets a little easier for a few weeks.

So if you typically leave for work at 7AM, I would not live in Flanders to commute to New York City or Jersey City. Or even Montvale. The congestion is just too tough, and the alternates like 46 and 10 do not save you any time. It will destroy your mental state.

The school district in Mount Olive is good, but is not a top performer. If you do your job as a parent, your kids can certainly get an excellent education and will be prepared for college using the Mount Olive school system. But that is true anywhere if you think about it.

Property taxes in Mount Olive are high. For a $700,000 to $800,000 home, you will be paying north of $19,000 in taxes in Mount Olive.

Of course as an agent, we are not allowed to make any comments at all as to race or ethnicity. Ever. So civilians will have to chime in on this topic.

Good luck! Again, if you have to leave for work after 6AM, I would look farther east in areas like Parsippany, Hanover, East Hanover, etc. Those areas are closer to 287 which will make the Montvale commute easy, and the Hudson County-NYC commute at least tolerable.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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Of course as an agent, we are not allowed to make any comments at all as to race or ethnicity. Ever. So civilians will have to chime in on this topic.

I'll pipe in here, while there is pretty good ethnic diversity in Mt Olive, for the reasons Marc has stated, look elsewhere, the work commutes will be killer on you both. You can find many other towns with diversity, better schools, comparable or lower taxes, all with better commutes than Mt. Olive in your price range.

KoalaNJ
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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Thanks.
How about public transportation i.e. buses or train commute to the city ?
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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Thanks.
How about public transportation i.e. buses or train commute to the city ?

The nearest train station would be either Mt. Arlington or Peapack both of which would be about a half hour plus drive from Flanders. (there is a station, at Rte 80 in Netcong, but then you are going way west to go east into NYC) Depending on where in Flanders your home is and which station you go to, as well as time of commute, it could be over a half hour just to the train station and then you are talking about another hour fifteen/thirty for the train trip into Penn Station. Do you really want to spend around 4 hours to commute each day....and keep in mind in bad weather or if there is an accident, you are talking over 4 hours in commute time. How much time will that leave you to enjoy the new house and actually see/spend time with the family?

I think a better option for you would be to look into Boonton Twp. You'll find nice new construction in your price range, you can take a midtown direct train from the town of Boonton or Mt. Lakes, (depending on which station is closer to your home) One huge plus to Boonton Twp is the schools....the twp schools are quite good, and they attend Mt. Lakes HS which is always near the top of all the ranking lists for the state.

KoalaNJ
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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Route 80 heading east during the morning commute may be the worst place to be in NJ during that time of day. Mt Olive is a nice area, very pretty with many trees, mountains, and rivers. The area is not congested, so shopping and running errands around town is enjoyable. There really is not much diversity in this part of Morris county. It is very close to Warren and Hunterdon counties, which are devoid of minorities all together.

You can look here New Jersey Department of Education | Report Card on information about schools in NJ.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Thanks.
How about public transportation i.e. buses or train commute to the city ?
Mt. Olive is really not a commuter friendly town as far as accessibility to mass transit. While you can drive to a train station like Mt. Arlington or Netcong, you'd have to switch in Dover. By the time you are finished driving and switching, the commute is too long and too hard.

There are many options farther to the East that are more suitable. I know you are probably getting seduced by the attractiveness of a nice new Toll Brothers home at a decent price, but the house is really only one part of the equation, and location is also a very big part. Your budget is good enough to do some damage in a much more commuter-friendly locale.

People underestimate the subtle damage to family life that is unavoidable with a long commute. It all comes down to energy, and long hard commutes are incredibly good at consuming and destroying psychic energy.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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I happen to drive by this location (Morris Hunt) yesterday, was pondering the same type of questions as originally posted. I was wondering how good the schools are, I read that they are good, but nothing substantial is documented to validate it? They seem to be average schools to me in the Mt. Olive area.

More importantly is the commute situation. It sounds like Route 80 is a nightmare to deal with from 6:30am onwards to commute into New York City. Wonderful looking homes, the builder appears to have done well as the community is established. Very private and wooded which is nice.

So my question is for those who are now residing in the community, any insight to offer? Satisfied or dissatisfied? Especially NYC commuters?

Commercialism is solid, as its only 5 minutes away off of route 206 which has plenty of shopping options. No major concerns there.
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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Mount Olive schools are average despite the increased rankings over the years. The superintendent and administrators of mount olive schools do what they can to boost the ratings by playing the system. For example, one of factors for rankings is the number of students taking AP classes. Mount Olive encourages students to take AP who are not ready for AP. Also, there is no "D" in the high school, it's either A, B, C, F. This inflates the overall grades of students and in fact has been detrimental to students applying for college. I know of one student applying to an Ivy league college that was denied because of the no "D" policy of the high school. The students are average at best, average SAT scores about 1550. Not very good considering the high cost of living in Mount Olive.
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