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Old 10-04-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: NJ & NV
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Actually 17 has been improved from Paramus & NJ 4 up to the NY line / I-287, it was upgraded, all traffic lights removed and so on. There are some improvements here and there going on. A dualized US 206 has been under construction on a new alignment down by Hillsborough for over a year.

I don't see much brand new highways being built and the State DOT announced that a few years back. Mostly some capacity improvements such as the NJ 3 widening and bridge replacement over the Passaic River, etc.

Instead of building I-95 on a new alignment through NJ what we got, and still don't have is a ramp or interchange to connect the Pennsy Tpike extension to I-95 in PA, That has been in the works for decades and most of us will probably not see it in this lifetime. It was supposed to be built waaaay in the future, like 2008, but now it will probably take til 2025 or so.

A few years back when the State wanted to build NJ 92 they where going to let the NJ Turnpike build it and charge a toll.

I think I-287, the Northern section from Montville NJ to the NY line was the last major piece of unbuilt interstate to be built in the US, which was finished maybe ten or 12 years ago. Along with that NJ widened all of I-287 to 3 lanes, many sections where 2 lanes, but along the way had to fight court battles with the Sierra Club a long while. Finally 287 was widened but the deal was the extra lane was for car pools, meaning 2 or 3 people in each car. Traffic would grind to a halt when you hit the car pool sections because 3 lanes had to merge back to 2. After a few years one of the Gov's I thin Whitman got Fed permission to get rid of the car pool lanes so we could all use the 3 lanes. The empty HOV sign structures are still there in many places.

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Old 10-04-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Randolph, NJ
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Go visit Washington DC, Atlanta, Boston, or much of CA and tell me again how our traffic is the worst. Given the population density, it's amazing that it works as well as it does.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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Go visit Washington DC, Atlanta, Boston, or much of CA and tell me again how our traffic is the worst. Given the population density, it's amazing that it works as well as it does.
You know, I'll second that. In August, I went to visit a friend in Arlington for a few days. Traffic is a friggin' nightmare down there, all the time. I said to my friend, "Wow, I didn't know there was a place where the traffic was worse than Jersey."
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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Actually 17 has been improved from Paramus & NJ 4 up to the NY line / I-287, it was upgraded, all traffic lights removed and so on. There are some improvements here and there going on. A dualized US 206 has been under construction on a new alignment down by Hillsborough for over a year.

I don't see much brand new highways being built and the State DOT announced that a few years back. Mostly some capacity improvements such as the NJ 3 widening and bridge replacement over the Passaic River, etc.

Instead of building I-95 on a new alignment through NJ what we got, and still don't have is a ramp or interchange to connect the Pennsy Tpike extension to I-95 in PA, That has been in the works for decades and most of us will probably not see it in this lifetime. It was supposed to be built waaaay in the future, like 2008, but now it will probably take til 2025 or so.

A few years back when the State wanted to build NJ 92 they where going to let the NJ Turnpike build it and charge a toll.

I think I-287, the Northern section from Montville NJ to the NY line was the last major piece of unbuilt interstate to be built in the US, which was finished maybe ten or 12 years ago. Along with that NJ widened all of I-287 to 3 lanes, many sections where 2 lanes, but along the way had to fight court battles with the Sierra Club a long while. Finally 287 was widened but the deal was the extra lane was for car pools, meaning 2 or 3 people in each car. Traffic would grind to a halt when you hit the car pool sections because 3 lanes had to merge back to 2. After a few years one of the Gov's I thin Whitman got Fed permission to get rid of the car pool lanes so we could all use the 3 lanes. The empty HOV sign structures are still there in many places.
I remember them finishing I-287. They took away more than half of Campgaw Mountain Reservation, where we used to hike and hang out. On the plus side, it cut our trip to the Poconos from Bergen County by half an hour.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Actually 17 has been improved from Paramus & NJ 4 up to the NY line / I-287, it was upgraded, all traffic lights removed and so on. There are some improvements here and there going on. A dualized US 206 has been under construction on a new alignment down by Hillsborough for over a year.
Right, but the key difference between here and more built up areas, is the space to build it in. 206 runs through rural areas, and most frontage retail/offices in Hillsborough are set well back from the road.

On most highways in Northern NJ, there is literally no way to expand the highway without demolishing dozens of strip malls and other businesses, as you'd make the parking unusuable or other sorts of issues.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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maybe we should build giant highways further out into less built up areas so we can encourage more sprawl and pull population away from the cities.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: NJ & NV
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maybe we should build giant highways further out into less built up areas so we can encourage more sprawl and pull population away from the cities.
Except everybody cries "no money for that" anyway.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Instead of more highways how about a state of the art high speed Monorail system running down the center of I78, I80, GSP direct to the city.
I like that idea.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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Except everybody cries "no money for that" anyway.
just cut money from somewhere else and use it to build highways.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Instead of more highways how about a state of the art high speed Monorail system running down the center of I78, I80, GSP direct to the city..
How about we start with making the RVL and other train lines go direct to the city?
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