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Old 10-13-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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I understand the guy has done some good and some bad. Problem is where is this guy? How much time has he spent away in other states instead of actually focusing on the dipple dipping corrupt politicians he finds himself aligned to? I understand he has some cred in the GOP circles but with unemployment at 9.8% and foreclosures going through the roof here in NJ you would think spending time solving our problems would be at the forefront of his list. Though I know its not true but Mr. Christie seems to be more of a campaigner then governor. Thoughts?
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I heard he ate all the food at a Wisconsin buffet...
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Epping,NH
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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Don't. Get. Me. Started. Seriously, you don't want to get me started about Christie.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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Gov. Christie notifies the Lt. Gov. when he travels and has transferred power (to Kim Guadagno) in the past. There was a bill this spring/summer that would have required the Gov. to also notify the Senate President and the Assembly Speaker. The bill was designed to track his travel. Personally, I thought it was nonsense, and some of the comments I heard were nothing more than politically motivated and posturing.

His travel schedule did become the subject of some scrutiny. He was elected Vice Chairman of the Governors Association, and of course was traveling for many other political reasons. When the rumors of a VP nomination were being bantered around, I am sure the scrutiny increased. But I also read articles scrutinizing personal trips to NY and Philly for dinner with his wife. Corzine did the same with personal trips I didn't buy the scrutiny then either. Gov. Whitman traveled a great deal, and also got scrutiny, and I didn't buy it then either.

Regardless, the Gov.'s office has generally let the public know when he is traveling. After the fact, a lot of this information is public -- the NJ State Open Public Records Act lists letters sent notifying others of travel, and of course the transfer of power.

Despite the scrutiny and his travel schedule -- very few people have accused the Gov. of failing due to his travel schedule. Other reasons, sure, but that's politics. LOL.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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Gov. Christie notifies the Lt. Gov. when he travels and has transferred power (to Kim Guadagno) in the past. There was a bill this spring/summer that would have required the Gov. to also notify the Senate President and the Assembly Speaker. The bill was designed to track his travel. Personally, I thought it was nonsense, and some of the comments I heard were nothing more than politically motivated and posturing.

His travel schedule did become the subject of some scrutiny. He was elected Vice Chairman of the Governors Association, and of course was traveling for many other political reasons. When the rumors of a VP nomination were being bantered around, I am sure the scrutiny increased. But I also read articles scrutinizing personal trips to NY and Philly for dinner with his wife. Corzine did the same with personal trips I didn't buy the scrutiny then either. Gov. Whitman traveled a great deal, and also got scrutiny, and I didn't buy it then either.

Regardless, the Gov.'s office has generally let the public know when he is traveling. After the fact, a lot of this information is public -- the NJ State Open Public Records Act lists letters sent notifying others of travel, and of course the transfer of power.

Despite the scrutiny and his travel schedule -- very few people have accused the Gov. of failing due to his travel schedule. Other reasons, sure, but that's politics. LOL.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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Gov. Christie notifies the Lt. Gov. when he travels and has transferred power (to Kim Guadagno) in the past. There was a bill this spring/summer that would have required the Gov. to also notify the Senate President and the Assembly Speaker. The bill was designed to track his travel. Personally, I thought it was nonsense, and some of the comments I heard were nothing more than politically motivated and posturing.

His travel schedule did become the subject of some scrutiny. He was elected Vice Chairman of the Governors Association, and of course was traveling for many other political reasons. When the rumors of a VP nomination were being bantered around, I am sure the scrutiny increased. But I also read articles scrutinizing personal trips to NY and Philly for dinner with his wife. Corzine did the same with personal trips I didn't buy the scrutiny then either. Gov. Whitman traveled a great deal, and also got scrutiny, and I didn't buy it then either.

Regardless, the Gov.'s office has generally let the public know when he is traveling. After the fact, a lot of this information is public -- the NJ State Open Public Records Act lists letters sent notifying others of travel, and of course the transfer of power.

Despite the scrutiny and his travel schedule -- very few people have accused the Gov. of failing due to his travel schedule. Other reasons, sure, but that's politics. LOL.

I dont accuse the Gov for failing I just look at our growth rate among the lowest in the country,our foreclosure rate among the highest in the nation and our unemployment rate among the highest in the nation do all the talking for me.
Of course you can play politics and imagine this had been a Dem and how it would be totally different. My idea is maybe focusing on NJ just a tad more would help us out. You cant and wont convince me that worrying about everyone else's election is going to help us in NJ.
Oh something else of note. I dont care who has done it. Corzine was an outright idiot. Whitman an outright crook. One being and idiot or a crook wont make me accept what I see as wrong right now.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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I dont accuse the Gov for failing I just look at our growth rate among the lowest in the country,our foreclosure rate among the highest in the nation and our unemployment rate among the highest in the nation do all the talking for me.
Of course you can play politics and imagine this had been a Dem and how it would be totally different. My idea is maybe focusing on NJ just a tad more would help us out. You cant and wont convince me that worrying about everyone else's election is going to help us in NJ.
Oh something else of note. I dont care who has done it. Corzine was an outright idiot. Whitman an outright crook. One being and idiot or a crook wont make me accept what I see as wrong right now.
I don't get involved in political threads or debates by choice. I'll throw my opinion in on whether or not I think someone is doing a good job or bad job, but that's about it. I don't think Corzine was an idiot, not do I think Whitman was a crook, but that's irrelevant.

OK, therefore, as you say, "My idea is maybe focusing on NJ just a tad more would help us out." -- his travel schedule is hurting NJ, right? But just to clarify, that's your "idea" right?

Do you know what % of his trips had to do with "everyone else's election" as you call it? That as opposed to business for the Gov.'s Association, NJ business in Washington DC, etc. I remember reading articles that scrutinized a specific trip he made, until those people found out he was meeting with members of Congress in Washington DC on Federal funding.

You can compare NJ to every other state in the country, but in my mind, those results doesn't correlate to his travel schedule. Nice theory, but that's all it is. Even his most vocal opponents and critics don't blame or point to his travel schedule, and that too is just their opinion.

I don't care who has done it either. I never said that "wrong now" is OK because others did it, even though I don't think it's wrong now. My point in bringing this up was that many other Gov's travel as well and there has always been scrutiny.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:34 AM
 
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I am focusing on this question:
Can any other employee of the State of NJ take this much time off from work?

Yes, everyone gets a certain amount of time for vacations, sick leave, family leave, and personal business days, but I don't know of anyone--in public or private employment--who would be allowed to continue to collect his/her salary while away from work to the extent that CC has been.

Yes, I am aware that his predecessor, Corzine, was away from his desk for a lot of time also.
However, no matter how unproductive Corzine was, since he only accepted $1.00 per year in salary, this type of situation was somewhat less of an issue in regard to Corzine's failed governorship.

Essentially, we are paying two people to do the job of one person because CC is away from NJ for such an incredible amount of time.
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:02 AM
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Location: Pennsylvania
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1. Jon Corzine was and is an idiot. As anyone who was unlucky enough to have their money with MF Global. For those of you who were asleep, $500,000,000 is missing on his watch.
2. NJ's problems took decades to create, and won't be fixed in just a few short years!
3. It took just until the very first response for a fat joke.
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