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You realize you contradicted yourself here. The "ONLY" limits should be holding people responsible for their actions. You then follow that by supporting stripping convicted felons of their firearm rights, so you do at least passingly acknowledge that our rights are limited, generally in the context of common sense and common good.
How about the mentally ill, should they be allowed to buy guns?
Should you be allowed to buy a Stinger missile? It is a "personal" weapon and "common arm" isn't it?
Should anyone be allowed to buy a firearm no questions asked?
Should people be allowed to purchase M2 .50 caliber machine guns?
I could keep listing things, but you get the point. Some on here may be arguing "ban", but I have not been. I'm arguing better regulation and that, IMO, should include further limits on certain types of weapons and/or magazine capacity. I also think we can do a heck of a better job on the sale end and honestly, a national registry would be a pretty good idea.
So, take the idea of ban out of it. What about more stringent sale requirements and registries would you be against?
a national registry is just common sense. just as it would be for controlled narcotics that are legal via prescription. it's hilarious watching individual states trying to create drug databases, only to realize that the enforcement in state is meaningless since people can just go out of state to run more narcotics into the state. but god forbid you suggest something be done nationally - then you're a socialist/communist/european/insertotherinsult.
^^^^^Because the anti-gunners use the "if it only saves one life" mantra to justify stripping the rights away fro honest law-abiding Americans....My point illustrates that it is NOT about saving lives....it's about them just not liking guns!
It illustrates their insincerity about saving lives....THAT's why!
i own guns, grew up around guns, and like guns. so no - it has nothing to do with not liking guns. in fact, i love guns.
lol, already in place? I can drive to West Virginia tomorrow, attend a gun show and buy as many firearms as I want from a private party no questions asked and those guns would be virtually untracable. Their only "requirement" is that they are not supposed to sell me a gun if they "think" I might be a criminal, a point you just validated yourself. Some enforcement. If what you said was true about the ability to trace all of these guns and that illegal purchases and transfers are prosecuted routinely, then why is it that around 90% of the guns used in crimes in the state of NJ originate in the south where they are purchased no questions asked and no records of them exist?
Besides the fact that you are ignoring the reality of the gun trade that I have already linked endless sources for, what harm then would a national registry cause? What harm would having to complete an official transfer when selling private party cause? Everything you just listed would still be allowed to happen. Only difference is, you need to officially "register" the firearms you possess and transfer that registration when you make a private party sale. I'm failing to see the "burden" of such a system if it adds virtually no additional complexity to the transactions you made.
Would you rather have sold those guns "reasonably assured" that the person you were handing it to wasn't a felon, or would you have rather known 100% and the gun that you sold them was officially transferred to them and no longer your responsibility?
and this is the basic piece of the argument. what Cyborg claims happens would simply be required to happen. I'm in audit, and in audit, if it's not documented, it's not done. Just instinctively knowing someone has no criminal history isn't proof they don't have one. Inquiry alone isn't valid either in audit. Asking someone if they misreported financial data doesn't prove they didn't misreport it. That's why documentation is required.
You could be darn sure, if a gun stayed tied to someone's name in something like a national registry, the number of guns finding their way illegally into the hands of one who commits a crime would plummet. it's just common sense. but then again...common sense isn't so common these days.
The way I see it, gun law/no gun law, it all comes down to the buzzer and the person who pushes the buzzer button. That one second judgement decides who is allowed into the school during daily sessions. I have had my child attend a private school and a public school, and have noticed that all too often once someone from the outside rings the bell, the buzzer automatically opens the door, THEN the person is to sign in/show ID - too late!!!
ahhh. the all important buzzer control. i forgot how effective doorbells are at stopping bullets. thanks!
ahhh. the all important buzzer control. i forgot how effective doorbells are at stopping bullets. thanks!
its not the doorbell it would be the door. but you would need to make sure its a secure door and that the person cant just break into the building somewhere else.
its not the doorbell it would be the door. but you would need to make sure its a secure door and that the person cant just break into the building somewhere else.
every door/entrance way would need to be a bulletproof door able to withstand a reasonable amount of damage. also - depending on how far you want to go, you'd also have to address windows, and roof access.
It would be very expensive.
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