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They had one guard who was off to lunch and upon returning, did save at least two lives. For some reason he refused to pursue the shooters into the school.
Because he didn't have to. Nor do police... Warren VS. District of Columbia...
I was talking to a friend of mine who is a teacher in Ohio. They have a police officer on duty at his school every day. On top of that they have some pretty impressive training that the entire school goes through. They realize that huddling in the corner will only get the entire room killed. They actually train the teachers first and then the children that if a gunman comes in to your room you get ready to attack. They figure out before hand what can be used as a weapon. This training comes from watching reenactments of columbine.
I went to elementary schools in the early '60's. No armed guards, no armed teachers, no metal detectors, older children went out hunting with their friends, no mass killings and guns were readily available for purchase.
What's happened over the years to where we're even having this discussion?
I just don't get it.
I went to school in So Cal (LA County) and had a kid bring in his .22 for show and tell. He had to be escorted by a parent, but that was it. Heck we had marksmanship as a 12th grade elective. Then came the illegals, gangs and the progressive apologists who gave away the great state of Kalifornia.
Only way to have a free society is to seriously punish those that abuse thier freedom. Cant have freedom without consequences for the viloators.
I was talking to a friend of mine who is a teacher in Ohio. They have a police officer on duty at his school every day. On top of that they have some pretty impressive training that the entire school goes through. They realize that huddling in the corner will only get the entire room killed. They actually train the teachers first and then the children that if a gunman comes in to your room you get ready to attack. They figure out before hand what can be used as a weapon. This training comes from watching reenactments of columbine.
This works with 6 yr. olds against a nut with an assault rifle?
And the CT teachers locked their rooms or took cover as soon as they knew there was a shooter. The principal left the intercom on to help others. IMO they did just about as much as they could to protect themselves given the surprise attack.
This works with 6 yr. olds against a nut with an assault rifle?
He works in a HS. Last time a checked we have those in NJ. But the teachers are also taught tactics of what to do. Again, not training and huddling in the corner is a poor plan.
They also have a command center that has access to cameras and the speaker system. They practice telling rooms when they should run based on where the shooter is. They also have a plan of blaring loud sounds wherever the shooter is to try and distract them.
Are you against schools trying to prepare for such an event?
I think the NRA blundered terribly..... From a PR perspective, what a debacle! One week to the day after this incident, their suggestion is to put MORE guns in schools. Literally, buy MORE of our product. What a missed opportunity to paint themselves as the moderate voice of reason which they could have done two fold: vigurously defending the second amendment while still advocating for safety measures to keep certain assault weapons off the market. Outrageous.
Well, what happens when the nut job who couldn't get the gun previously, overtakes the guard and take his weapon? Think it can't happen? That's exactly how a cop in my town was killed years ago. He was overtaken by a naked man on drugs while on patrol and shot and killed on the spot. So, no, I don't want guns being brought to my children's elementary school, for Pete's sake.
To me--it's like putting the forbidden fruit in every corner so that anything a nut job needs to do is bypass the gun store and figure out how to surprise and attack the guy with the gun. Boom, two problems solved. Not to mention a more obvious problem---what a tantalizing opportunity for terrorists who cannot get weapons without being put under surveillance. Five determine thugs can quite definitely overtake a glorified mall cop.
The reason that air marshals work is because of the element of surprise. No one on board knows who to target, who has the weapon. The perimeter and area of attention for the air marshall is manageable. So, at the very least, the last thing we need is one bored, under stimulated mall cop being surprised by a determined criminal.
Armed police officers are already posted in some New Jersey schools, mostly high schools.
The 600 officers trained by the New Jersey Association of School Resource Officers not only investigate crimes and provide some security, but they also serve as mentors to students, said State Police Sgt. Gregory Williams, a member of the association’s executive board.
I think the NRA blundered terribly..... From a PR perspective, what a debacle! One week to the day after this incident, their suggestion is to put MORE guns in schools. Literally, buy MORE of our product.
The NRA does not sell guns. The members of the NRA are not gun manufacturers and sellers.
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What a missed opportunity to paint themselves as the moderate voice of reason which they could have done two fold: vigurously defending the second amendment while still advocating for safety measures to keep certain assault weapons off the market. Outrageous.
The NRA is opposed to keeping "certain assault weapons" off the market... why would they concede their position in advance?
He works in a HS. Last time a checked we have those in NJ. But the teachers are also taught tactics of what to do. Again, not training and huddling in the corner is a poor plan.
They also have a command center that has access to cameras and the speaker system. They practice telling rooms when they should run based on where the shooter is. They also have a plan of blaring loud sounds wherever the shooter is to try and distract them.
Are you against schools trying to prepare for such an event?
Except this principal was always on top of the latest "assault weapons massacre" training. He shot his way in and panic ensued. If someone in that office had a gun & confronted Lanza, odds are they'd be dead too.
The NRA does not sell guns. The members of the NRA are not gun manufacturers and sellers.
The NRA is opposed to keeping "certain assault weapons" off the market... why would they concede their position in advance?
They support gun manufacturers and have an interest in seeing as many guns on the street as possible. They've done a magnificent job.
In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.
While that is still part of the organization's core function, today less than half of the NRA's revenues come from program fees and membership dues. The bulk of the group's money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.
Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
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