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Old 01-06-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Hopefully this isn't a dumb question. I'm a New Yorker currently looking for a home in NJ. I've noticed that for many of the properties I'm looking at, the property tax has increased sharply over the past few years. I remember reading that Gov. Christie imposed a 2% cap on property tax increases, so I'm wondering how the increase can be so dramatic in some places.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Hopefully this isn't a dumb question. I'm a New Yorker currently looking for a home in NJ. I've noticed that for many of the properties I'm looking at, the property tax has increased sharply over the past few years. I remember reading that Gov. Christie imposed a 2% cap on property tax increases, so I'm wondering how the increase can be so dramatic in some places.
Christie didn't impose the 2% cap. He and the legislature worked on it. The legislature passed it and Christie signed it.

Now for the answer as to how increases can still be so high. The 2% property tax cap is a joke. First, it only covers the municipal portion of property taxes. The county and school taxes, along with a small open spaces portion, make up the bulk of property taxes in most municipalities in New Jersey. Second, the 2% cap included its own seeds of destruction. It allows exemptions by referendum for ALL of the very issues that lead to higher property taxes in the first place. So, if a municipality wants to exceed the 2% cap and voters approve the increase taxes still go up.

The tax cap was a political ploy. Don't fall for it. My property taxes went up over 7% total this year alone and over $3,000 over the past six years.

Here are some links with more info:

New Jersey League of Municipalities - DLGS Issues Guidance for CY 2011 Budgets

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13taxes.html

N.J. tax cap could be years from taking hold - NorthJersey.com

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Old 01-07-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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As bob said, the "cap" is a joke because it excluded the most common items that would relate to a tax increase. Even then, with a simple referendum vote the cap can be exceeded. I haven't heard of one referendum not passing since the "cap" was put in place.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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do they cap spending increases or just tax increases?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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do they cap spending increases or just tax increases?
Just tax increases. If they can "creatively" spend the money via accumulating debt, they have no restrictions.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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Just tax increases. If they can "creatively" spend the money via accumulating debt, they have no restrictions.
its a funny concept to cap revenue but not expenses. people need to start looking at debt as a tax. either that or dont allow government to take on debt.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Interesting stuff. Thanks all for the replies. I should have known better. If it sounds too good to be true...
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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Great post! Even if the cap was successful it would be 2% a year increase and that would be a lot. 2% x 10 years is more than 20% as each year the increase compounds. Remember this is how savings accounts would work. I really don't know were this is all going? All I know is it is just too much for me.

"I am out"
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Well my Northern Jersey town kept the tax increases to 2% or less in the last three years that I checked. That is a lot less than a $50 monthly rent increase that I usually had when we were renting...

Not sure why you say that a referendum to raise taxes above 2% will always pass. After all, people will essentially be voting to tax themselves...

Overall, I think having an imperfect cap is much better than having no cap at all.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Well my Northern Jersey town kept the tax increases to 2% or less in the last three years that I checked. That is a lot less than a $50 monthly rent increase that I usually had when we were renting...

Not sure why you say that a referendum to raise taxes above 2% will always pass. After all, people will essentially be voting to tax themselves...

Overall, I think having an imperfect cap is much better than having no cap at all.
People have short memories. Before the cap my taxes went up 6% every year. Now they stick to 2%. There was one year they went over the 2%, but that's no big deal compared to the old system. This cap may not be perfect, but it is better than nothing. And I specifically remember Christy wanted a hard cap, but the legislature wouldn't pass it until it got watered down, so I don't think they should get credit for any of it.
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