Left Job For New Job - Unemployment? (brokers, how much)
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You have also apparently not spent sufficient time with we "commoners" to grasp the concept of sarcasm either.
The phrase "give your two weeks" or "I put in my two weeks" is not limited to NJ. While certainly not "proper" English, it is a very commonly used phrase throughout the country. For the most part people do not endeavor to use formal or academic English when posting on forums. Further it is also generally considered rude and in poor form to criticize someone over a poorly structured phrase, grammer or punctuation. Especially when the meaning is evident to the majority of readers.
Well, of course I wouldn't expect fully academic style English on a forum, but this lack of clarity when asking a question is an issue some people need to fix.
Grammer? I think you meant Grammar, with an "a". It is very true that criticizing someone for grammar is not very nice but as I don't know that person who asked the question, I owe him/her no niceties. We should be thankful I even addressed it and wasted my time trying to advise it.
As for sarcasm, believe me I can be very sarcastic but your sarcasm wasn't very biting or amusing for me to reciprocate.
Actually, I was shocked that the individual knew the reference but that's the great thing about the hoi polloi. Some exposure to even a bit of culture vastly improves their knowledge.
Sounds like what I did. I gave my 2 weeks notice, had a state job offer..Next day, they called and said the Freeholders didnt approve it. I could not collect as I quit my job. Long time before I got another job. Just gotta love NJ, hahahaha.
Could be - maybe I'm just too picky. I dislike people who can't express themselves in a clear manner. With regard to your question, you can use "give 2 weeks" when you are referring to making an effort at work or spent two weeks working. That's how his/her message came across. I think some towns give free writing classes. He/She could sure use them.
you dislike people who cant clearly express themselves? i dont think thats very nice. in this instance, everyone understood the OP but you. so id say that makes it a good chance that you are the problem.
its an interesting situation since you basically quit as far as the first company is concerned. i wonder why they wont take you back. did you do a bad job during the 2 weeks after you gave notice? an unfortunate reality (and big reason why you fire someone once they give notice) is many employees dont work very well during those 2 weeks.
oh and one big reason why an employee shouldnt burn bridges is that a lot of times people come back looking for a job. ive had a lot of employees that have left for another job come calling months or even years later looking for a job. if you think how they left doesnt factor into the decision to take them back, you would be wrong.
Well, of course I wouldn't expect fully academic style English on a forum, but this lack of clarity when asking a question is an issue some people need to fix.
Grammer? I think you meant Grammar, with an "a". It is very true that criticizing someone for grammar is not very nice but as I don't know that person who asked the question, I owe him/her no niceties. We should be thankful I even addressed it and wasted my time trying to advise it.
As for sarcasm, believe me I can be very sarcastic but your sarcasm wasn't very biting or amusing for me to reciprocate.
Actually, I was shocked that the individual knew the reference but that's the great thing about the hoi polloi. Some exposure to even a bit of culture vastly improves their knowledge.
Thank you.
Thanks for all your posts on this thread, I was trying to decide who to put on my ignore list and your last couple of posts sealed the deal.
Well, of course I wouldn't expect fully academic style English on a forum, but this lack of clarity when asking a question is an issue some people need to fix.
Grammer? I think you meant Grammar, with an "a". It is very true that criticizing someone for grammar is not very nice but as I don't know that person who asked the question, I owe him/her no niceties. We should be thankful I even addressed it and wasted my time trying to advise it.
As for sarcasm, believe me I can be very sarcastic but your sarcasm wasn't very biting or amusing for me to reciprocate.
Actually, I was shocked that the individual knew the reference but that's the great thing about the hoi polloi. Some exposure to even a bit of culture vastly improves their knowledge.
Thank you.
If the question is not presented in a clear manner, then perhaps it would be best to refrain from responding. Afterall, if the person posing the question is unable to clearly phrase what advice they desire; how could we possibly expect them to understand and use the advice we provide? It would be best to not waste our time on such trivalities as allowing commoners to enjoy the benefits of our education, if they cannot even properly phrase precisely which knowledge they seek.
As for the misspelled word, are you in fact the grammar police? Oh, there I go again slipping into common phrases, apologies. I must also apologize for my impropriety in addressing you in written form and not taking the appropriate time to esnure proper grammar and spelling. I personally fault the fact that my mind often moves so rapidly that my poor fingers are simply not adequate to keep up.
In terms of niceties, if gentlemen no longer maintain the basic proprieties that are expected of our station and intellect then to what has this world come? I fully appreciate the pain associated with dealing with those of lower station and intellect, but one must not allow their frustrations to get the better of them. While your attempt to correct the poor sod was obviously driven by a personal desire to help, there is nothing gained by merely displaying ones intellectual prowess and demeaning the poor fool.
As for my sarcasm, perhaps it was a bit too dry or perhaps you are not of the station and intellect you claim if you could not grasp it? I showed my response to a few of my contemporaries and they all had a chuckle. I am thinking I may not be the issue on this one. Perhaps your frustration over dealing with these commoners simply overwhelmed you and you were unable to understand the subtlety.
Personally I would prefer the hoi polloi to remain uncultured and devoid of knowledge. As soon as they begin to accumulate knowledge they become dangerous. You do remember what happened to poor Louis and Nicholas don't you? Today they are exploring the history of proper men's fashion and then next thing you know, they are marching us off to the guillotine. Try not to delight too much in seeing what the chimps can learn.
And you can Google "EMPLOYER RESCIND JOB OFFER", "EMPLOYER RENEGE JOB OFFER", "EMPLOYMENT AT WILL", and "PROMISSORY ESTOPPEL" for similar cases to yours.
NJ is an EMPLOYMENT-AT-WILL state. EMPLOYMENT AT WILL means that any employer can fire or lay you off with ZERO notice, for any reason (excluding discriminatory ones, of course) and they don't have to give you any explanation.
Now, EMPLOYEES are not REQUIRED to give 2 weeks notice either. You can resign AT WILL yourself. Of course, we all know that it's generally considered "rude" not to give 2 weeks notice, so employees do it anyway for fear of being badmouthed or having bad corporate joojoo follow them around (e.g., you won't be able to use that employer as a reference; if they are called in the future for employment verification/background checks, they will bad mouth you, etc. etc.). It's a SUCKY setup for employees.
Below is an article about 2 NJ cases, Schley v. Microsoft Corp., and Sercia v. Red Bull North America Inc., that demonstrate how the law treats cases similar to yours. (It kinda half sided with Schley...but only, it seems, because he shelled out for a $30,000 down payment on a new house across the country in Washington in order to relocate for the new job. As for Sercia, it did not side with her at all, even though the new/prospective employer went behind Sercia's back, expressly against her wishes, to tell her current/old employer that they wanted her and were offering her a job.)
We can't make any definite statements about your particular case, though, without knowing more details. (Also, we are not lawyers...that I know of, anyway.) Did you get a written job offer? If so, what are the specific conditions and stipulations put forth in that document? Why, exactly, did the new employer change their minds? Drastic cutbacks/budget problems? A questionable background check? Did you lose money doing anything like relocating to accept that new job offer?
As for Unemployment, your type of case is not one that would typically qualify for unemployment benefits. Of course, you can always apply anyway and see what happens. They will review/investigate your case and probably ask all the same questions as above. Probably the chips are stacked against you, though, because like I said..."EMPLOYMENT AT WILL".
I suppose you can try asking for your old job back, but I'm assuming since you gave 2 weeks notice, that they've already been interviewing someone to replace you, if they haven't already hired & started training someone.
If the question is not presented in a clear manner, then perhaps it would be best to refrain from responding. Afterall, if the person posing the question is unable to clearly phrase what advice they desire; how could we possibly expect them to understand and use the advice we provide? It would be best to not waste our time on such trivalities as allowing commoners to enjoy the benefits of our education, if they cannot even properly phrase precisely which knowledge they seek.
As for the misspelled word, are you in fact the grammar police? Oh, there I go again slipping into common phrases, apologies. I must also apologize for my impropriety in addressing you in written form and not taking the appropriate time to esnure proper grammar and spelling. I personally fault the fact that my mind often moves so rapidly that my poor fingers are simply not adequate to keep up.
In terms of niceties, if gentlemen no longer maintain the basic proprieties that are expected of our station and intellect then to what has this world come? I fully appreciate the pain associated with dealing with those of lower station and intellect, but one must not allow their frustrations to get the better of them. While your attempt to correct the poor sod was obviously driven by a personal desire to help, there is nothing gained by merely displaying ones intellectual prowess and demeaning the poor fool.
As for my sarcasm, perhaps it was a bit too dry or perhaps you are not of the station and intellect you claim if you could not grasp it? I showed my response to a few of my contemporaries and they all had a chuckle. I am thinking I may not be the issue on this one. Perhaps your frustration over dealing with these commoners simply overwhelmed you and you were unable to understand the subtlety.
Personally I would prefer the hoi polloi to remain uncultured and devoid of knowledge. As soon as they begin to accumulate knowledge they become dangerous. You do remember what happened to poor Louis and Nicholas don't you? Today they are exploring the history of proper men's fashion and then next thing you know, they are marching us off to the guillotine. Try not to delight too much in seeing what the chimps can learn.
I totally agree with your first paragraph. Some people are just incorrigible, unrepentant in their own ignorance.
No, you needn't worry. I am not the "Grammar Police". Is there such a thing? I find it difficult to be something that doesn't exist.
You are also correct about demeaning poor fools. Sometimes our vile, wicked, sinful human nature gets the better of us and we lash out at the most obvious fool. We need to work on that.
What you say about these people is spot on, sir/madam. As soon as you give them an inch, they take a mile. I've seen it happen in some school districts, for example - look at what happens in Hudson County, with all these new people who are filled with entitlements. They've become a big problem in that part of the state.
As for the sarcasm, you must forgive me - I simply didn't interpret it in the way you wanted me to do so.
The 2 weeks notice thing is overrated. Companies fire you the day they want to fire you with no qualms whatsoever. You don't owe them squat. You don't have to train the next person if you don't want to or give them details on what you were working on.
I have never worked for any employer that just fired you that day unless you were doing something illegal. So while it sounds like a nice justification against the the big bad mean employers the reality is this isn't the case all the time.
Well, of course I wouldn't expect fully academic style English on a forum, but this lack of clarity when asking a question is an issue some people need to fix.
Grammer? I think you meant Grammar, with an "a". It is very true that criticizing someone for grammar is not very nice but as I don't know that person who asked the question, I owe him/her no niceties. We should be thankful I even addressed it and wasted my time trying to advise it.
As for sarcasm, believe me I can be very sarcastic but your sarcasm wasn't very biting or amusing for me to reciprocate.
Actually, I was shocked that the individual knew the reference but that's the great thing about the hoi polloi. Some exposure to even a bit of culture vastly improves their knowledge.
Thank you.
Nuff said
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