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Old 11-05-2007, 10:05 PM
 
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I am working in NYC, but my wife is planning to study in Rutgers Piscataway from next fall 08. We want to live in a place close to the Rutgers Piscataway campus, yet in a safe neighbourhood. Since she is planning a PhD, we want to move into somewhere for around 5 years.

We just took one trip to New Brunswick & Piscataway area - and initially the New Brunswick downtown area appealed to us a lot. There are quite a few restuarants, a little more lively than rest of Middlesex etc. Currently we are in Jersey City - initially New Brunswick downtown seemed to be the closest to avoid a total suburb living.

On the other hand, I read a lot of horror stories about how unsafe New Brunswick & Piscataway is. Prudence tells me to live in either Edison if I don't want to worry about someone breaking in at night.

Questions:
(a) Regd New Brunswick/Piscataway:
(i) Is the situation in New Brunswick/Piscataway really as bad as they are mentioned in this webpage here:
How Unsafe Is Rutgers, Really? - New York Times
One local friend of mine thinks so, but I want some more opinions ...
(ii) I was planning to check out Highlands at Plaza Square, as that building suits most of our needs for an apartment living, such as covered garages, concierge (for mails), washer/dryer in unit & space as well. Is the neighbourhood safe?

For instance, there are many value-for-money buildings in Jersey City, but in reality the neighbourhood is not great. Similarly, I was wondering maybe the New Brunswick downtown suffers from poor neighbourhood even if it good buildings. Is this correct?

(b) Regd Edison
(i) The other alternative I am looking at is Edison. Since Blueberry & Edison Village is close to the station, I was thinking that it could be a great option as we would need to keep only one car (for her to drive to Rutgers). However, I have read bad reviews on the net. Is the poor maintenance really a big issue? Or, is it just some one-off frustated guys writing the bad reviews?
(ii) Some friends have said that in Rivendell & a few other Edison complexes near Piscataway, burglary/robbery is a major issue. How serious is the robbery issue in these communities?
(iii) Others have mentioned that security is an issue because anyone can get into the complexes. Any major security issue that has happened?

I would be really grateful if someone can give detailed replies.

Thanks.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:06 AM
 
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I have lived in South Plainfield my whole life. It's about 10 minutes away from Piscataway. South Plainfield is a very nice town. If you are looking to eventually buy a home there taxes are pretty good as well. It is also safe. Most of my family own homes in South Plainfield and nerver had any problems. Good luck Christina
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:53 AM
 
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I live up the road from New Brunswick.

It's not that bad. Downtown is fabulous with some of the best dining in the state and all of the RU nightlife is there. If you plan on living in one of the new buildings with concierge, etc you should be fine. The schools are abysmal but without kids what do you care? Just common sense applies - don't go walking around the scary neighbourhoods at night, especially if female, don't leave your car out in a quiet area where it may be broken into. I have a friend that lives in a beautiful old home in New Brunswick. She left her garage door open and someone came in and pilfered stuff - that is the kind of crime that exists there. The regular urban petty crime - thefts and drugs. But it's not as if someone is going to grab you off the street and shove a needle in your arm.

As for Piscataway - it is a regular suburb, a little more working class than some of the surrounding ones but not exactly the pits of hell.

If you want an urban environment and walkable downtown, look also at Highland Park, it is just over the river from New Brunswick, but you would have to walk further to the train.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:32 AM
 
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One of the nicest areas of Piscatawy is the River Road area where the Rutgers Bush campus is located. Just a short drive to the NB train station and a nice park nearby (Johnson ParK on River road). There are apts. in Piscataway just off River rd. near the rail line and some nice homes available all along River Road.
Living near NB has many advantages, the State theater in NB has major shows all winter season long and the George street playhouse has some nice shows also. At the State I have seen Leno,Carlin,Cosby plus Grease, Rent and more shows than I can count.Lots of great restaurants also in NB
If you are only staying five years I don't think you can go wrong in this area.
There are some not so nice areas of Piscataway but they are clear across the twp. on the border of Plainfield.

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Old 11-10-2007, 10:07 AM
 
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Allow me to give you the nitty gritty on New brunswick, having graduated from Rutgers business school in 2006 and living the city for 4 years.

1) The Highlands are beautiful, overpriced rentals. I would also look for Riverwatch directly across the street if you want to rent. Both are beautiful and close proximity to the downtown area.

2) Safety : New Brunswick is run by College Students just like your wife! Its a VERY safe place if you know where to stay. Areas such as Rutgers immediate campus and downtown new brunswick are 100% believe me. The mexicans who walk around are just as busy with their lives as you are! There are hundreds of police cars who drive through and there is rarely an altercation. I feel safer in NB than NYC to be honest. If you go up 2 or 3 blocks from downtown new brunswick/George St you will be in the "bad" area...but you should never have any reason to go there anyways. Additionally, the new hotel and the brand new Rutgers dorm right on George St make it even more "college feel". The restaurants are delicious!

3) Theres a new development called Fulton Square (see Edgewoodproperties.com) that is 1 block south of George Street. It is a gated community that is BRAND NEW and selling at a ridiculous discount to get people in! They are BEGGING to sell! a 2BR unit is listed at $308k but they eagerly discount to $280k before you even ask! And ITS GATED! If 5 years is the plan for you and you have some money for even a small downpayment I would urge you to BUY rather than RENT (these units will gain price signifcantly in the next 5-10 years as NB is resurrected). I've seen new brunswick gain popularity with new restaurants, new clubs, and the theater in just 4 years of attending college there. Real estate is booming!

I was planning on buying into Fulton Square as an investment property but can't afford it at the moment, but believe me as a 4 year insider of new brunsiwck, its a very wise decision.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Thumbs down Gangs

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I live up the road from New Brunswick.

It's not that bad. Downtown is fabulous with some of the best dining in the state and all of the RU nightlife is there. If you plan on living in one of the new buildings with concierge, etc you should be fine. The schools are abysmal but without kids what do you care? Just common sense applies - don't go walking around the scary neighbourhoods at night, especially if female, don't leave your car out in a quiet area where it may be broken into. I have a friend that lives in a beautiful old home in New Brunswick. She left her garage door open and someone came in and pilfered stuff - that is the kind of crime that exists there. The regular urban petty crime - thefts and drugs. But it's not as if someone is going to grab you off the street and shove a needle in your arm.

As for Piscataway - it is a regular suburb, a little more working class than some of the surrounding ones but not exactly the pits of hell.

If you want an urban environment and walkable downtown, look also at Highland Park, it is just over the river from New Brunswick, but you would have to walk further to the train.
You're kidding right? Did you read about the recent gang drive by shooting? IMO: A few blocks here & there in NB are relatively safe but not much.

One man was killed and another wounded Monday night in a shooting on Hampton Road in New Brunswick, the second shooting in the city in two days and the second person killed on Hampton Road this year.

New Brunswick police and the Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office were investigating Monday's shooting, and few details were immediately available this morning.

The prosecutor's office is expected to give more information later today.

On Sunday about 9:30 p.m. a 15-year-old New Brunswick boy was wounded in the abdomen in a drive-by shooting on Lufberry Avenue near Route 27 while he was standing with several other people.

The victim was taken to Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick where he was in stable condition Monday.

On April 7, Juhwan Barns, 18, was shot while visiting friends outside an apartment building on Hampton Road. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

It was uncertain this morning if any of the shootings were related.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You're kidding right? Did you read about the recent gang drive by shooting? IMO: A few blocks here & there in NB are relatively safe but not much.
I am in and out of New Brunswick all the time, with my kids, with the spouse, walked all over and have never had a problem. This is the area I live in. I just don't go into the rough areas by myself at night. Cause I'm not stupid. And unfortunately the gangs have moved on as the development in NB has gone on and now many of themhave moved to surrounding towns. In fact, there are gangs all over Jersey - the police just put out a report - tony suburban South Brunswick was listed as at high risk for gang warfare, Princeton has them, the only Middlesex town without was Monroe and that is probably because half of the town is geriatric.
So no, I'm not kidding, and I don't sugarcoat and I don't panicmonger either.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:16 AM
 
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The constant comments about gangs in central NJ are nothing but panicmongermania.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:13 PM
 
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The constant comments about gangs in central NJ are nothing but panicmongermania.
Just stating the facts. From the front page of The Home News today.

MIDDLESEX COUNTY — A manhunt is under way for a man and a woman — described as members of the Bloods street gang — who are wanted for the Nov. 5 murder of a 24-year-old New Brunswick man on Hampton Road in the city.



Murder complaints have been signed against Morgan Brown, 19, of New Brunswick, and Shakiera Summers, 20, of Riverside, in connection with the slaying of Dyshon Thompson.

Thompson was gunned down with an assault rifle about 9:20 p.m. while watching children playing touch football under streetlights outside of the public housing project where he lived.

A single round in a hail of gunfire pierced his pelvis and severed an artery. He was pronounced dead at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at 11:44 p.m. Nov. 5.

A 25-year-old city man, Derwin Booker, was shot in the right knee and survived the drive-by shooting.

Authorities also identified Thompson and Booker as members of the Bloods.

The shooting erupted as a result of an rivalry within the Bloods, Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce Kaplan said, declining to elaborate.

Brown and Summers were also charged with conspiracy to commit murder and with weapons offenses. Bail has been set at $2 million.

Statements from witnesses and the police investigation are cited as the probable cause for the complaints, Kaplan said.

Authorities said the rivalry had nothing to do with any romantic connection to Summers, that she is merely another Bloods member.

If convicted, both Brown and Summers could face life in prison because of extended sentences doled out for gang-related crimes, Kaplan said.

Brown is 5 feet 8 inches tall, with a medium build, and weighs about 185 pounds. He has a tattoo on his left arm bearing the word "Killa."

Summers is 5 feet 6 inches tall, also of medium build, and weighs about 150 pounds. She has an unspecified tattoo on one of her hands.

Both Brown and Summers should be considered armed and dangerous, Kaplan said.

Authorities are urging anyone with information on the two suspects to call Detective Mark Pappas of the New Brunswick Police Department at (732) 745-5217 or Investigator Raj Chopra at the Prosecutor's Office at (732) 745-4471. The Prosecutor's Office is offering rewards of up to $500 for information leading to the capture of Brown and Summers.

Thompson was a star athlete in high school, a standout wide receiver and free safety for the North Brunswick High School varsity football team in 1999 and 2000.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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LOL. Very good, finding a story about gang violence in New Brunswick to discourage someone from moving there! I don't think someone interested in moving to the Highlands at Plaza Square or One Spring Street, etc. would have to worry much about a gang shooting out on Route 27. It's like telling someone not to move to the Upper West Side because there was a shooting in Washington Heights last week.
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