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remember.. SYG (and the like) is a separate discussion from Gun control.
The notion of SYG or Duty to retreat applies to lethal force.. not just force with a firearm.
You can be a supporter of Gun ownership and yet not support SYG (<< me). You can also be a supporter of SYG but support gun control.
As I mentioned in a previous post, Texas had a concealed weapons law on the books since 1991 but the governor did not sign SYG into law until 2007. Texas was doing just fine before 2007...
In a way, you are right.. SYG gives certain people a pass that is unjustified.
Agreed. I support gun ownership, but SYG laws are too vague in most places, and leave room for some serious sociopaths to get away with murder. Florida seems to be a hot bed for it. The lunatic who killed an unarmed black teen for playing loud music, as the kids sat in the car, is claiming SYG!!!! Seriously WTF?!!
but actually non nutjob gun advocates will suffer because of this nutjob law because it will put everyone under more scrutiny
Absolutely!!! That is my concern. I am afraid that the general public won't see SYG separation from gun control. When SYG is taken down, it might just also take down gun ownership rights along with it.
Its the reason why I keep repeating the same thing.... SYG != gun rights/control.
Come on Captain we know your not the sharpest pencil in the box but bad guys don't break into houses to steal your kids. They break in to take your stuff.
You would fit in down here in NC because they do let every Loony Tune who wants a gun to get one. They even made me go through a background check and I'm a good guy from NJ.
Now they are doing away with that requirement and "allowing the seller to do the background check.
If you needs guns "come on down" we got plenty. Just don't let those bad guys in Law enforcement in NJ catch you.
i appreciate the attack on my intelligence. i especially appreciate it while the attacker is saying something that is completely ridiculous. its funny that you label me as some looney toon who needs guns. i have guns (legally owned), i just dont have the right to carry them in public. im also someone that you would want to carry in public because everyone would be safer (except criminals) if i could.
i appreciate the attack on my intelligence. i especially appreciate it while the attacker is saying something that is completely ridiculous. its funny that you label me as some looney toon who needs guns. i have guns (legally owned), i just dont have the right to carry them in public. im also someone that you would want to carry in public because everyone would be safer (except criminals) if i could.
nah
what makes people think they are the police when they are not? u dont have training, authority or good judgement to be in that kinda position of power
I just want to know how many of the tough guys who think it's cowardly to retreat to avoid shooting someone, would get in a fist fight if they did NOT have their gun? From what I've seen, the biggest gun freaks are the biggest punks, and couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. They only talk tough when their gun is on them.
what a childish thing to say. i never get into fist fights and to this point id never need to use a gun. but if i did get into a fist fight or use my gun it would be in the exact same scenario (except situations where id be helping someone else other than my family as id be less likely to do so without a gun). id just have a much better shot at success with the gun.
how childish to talk about fighting and calling people that wouldnt wish to fight a "punk."
nah
what makes people think they are the police when they are not? u dont have training, authority or good judgement to be in that kinda position of power
i have no interest in being the police. the police count the bodies after a crime has happened; they arent there to defend people made helpless by gun laws. i just want to be able to protect myself and others from those who would do them harm.
what a childish thing to say. i never get into fist fights and to this point id never need to use a gun. but if i did get into a fist fight or use my gun it would be in the exact same scenario (except situations where id be helping someone else other than my family as id be less likely to do so without a gun). id just have a much better shot at success with the gun.
how childish to talk about fighting and calling people that wouldnt wish to fight a "punk."
are u Zimmerman? damn, that must be his alter ego
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