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Old 03-13-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I notice Texas-philiacs point out how "liberal" parts of the state are, mostly due to transplants from the coasts. No mention of the millions of rednecks & goobers in between.

Let's get real about schools too. Jersey's consistently in top 3 along with other "librul, commie" states like Massachusetts & Maryland. Have never seen TX anywhere near the top.
Guess we dropped down to 8th, even Arkansas came in higher at 5th.

Quality Counts 2013 Education Rankings Come In: Maryland First, South Dakota Last
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Guess we dropped down to 8th, even Arkansas came in higher at 5th.

Quality Counts 2013 Education Rankings Come In: Maryland First, South Dakota Last
Nice to see Texas at 14. Not as dismal as our anti Texas folks make it out of be.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Nice to see Texas at 14. Not as dismal as our anti Texas folks make it out of be.
that may be an impressive feat considering the proximity to mexico.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Port Murray
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Hey, Everyone,

Life changes are sometimes out of our control, particularly when you have a family, young children, cost of living is usually a big concern.

On the other hand, I am single, and I have chosen the northeast, NJ, as my place.

I have lived in so many places, from Vermont to Georgia, to Colorado to Washington.

I do not care about cost; I care about education, culture, progressive politics, and being on the cutting edge of all that is current.

Even if I did have children, I would not want to bring them up without a Northeastern education.

How to afford it? You cut back. In the end, the time you spend in the north, gain an education, is exponential to your earning power.


Best wishes for new employment and new opportunities.

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Old 03-14-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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Hmm...no TX here. NJ #3 & FL in top 10:

States With the Best (and Worst) Schools - 24/7 Wall St.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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He already found a house down in Dallas for $175k that's twice as large as his current and property taxes about 20% less than what he's paying while his salary takes no hit.
Yes, but a house is not just a house. It has a location. In real estate location is everything.
He would be comparing apples to apples only if this house in Dallas that he "found" is in a comparable school district as the one here in NJ.

Now that he has made his decision, he, of course, his going to rub your nose in how "great" Texas is.

My wiser mom has always said, with everything in life, you gain some things, you lose some things.
Your co-worker will find that out soon enough.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Nice to see Texas at 14. Not as dismal as our anti Texas folks make it out of be.
the biggest thing in Education Week's ranking system that pulls NJ down to 8 is spending per pupil. While I'm not saying it's not important to rank that, if you eliminated that from the rankings, NJ shoots up and many other states drop.

Now, you may or may not care how much your state spends per pupil. But I'd rather look at things like readiness for college and education performance. I already know we spend too much per pupil in NJ, but that's not hurting my kids' education performance, so why should it lower the states' Education ranking?
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Guess we dropped down to 8th, even Arkansas came in higher at 5th.

Quality Counts 2013 Education Rankings Come In: Maryland First, South Dakota Last
You send your kids to Arkansaw schools & let us know how that works out.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yeah, but here in NJ it is pretty much impossible for a college graduate in their mid 20s to even join the middle class without enough "experience", which is a thing prospect employers love to throw back as an excuse for no opportunity.

I see plenty of new jobs popping up here in NJ, but it is an either a or b situation:

A. If you don't have 7-10 years of "experience" of the given position, well you can forget about ever being considered.

B. It pays around $25,000 per year, whether it is salary or hourly rate. And every year you get a 10-15 cent raise per hour. And ZERO growth potential!
While I agree this is a big issue. But that's part of the challenge here in the Northeast is the competitiveness of the region.

Company I work for is very large and relocating to Texas is possible depending on the line of business you work for but I prefer to stay in the Northeast until it's time to hang it up.

People from the South just don't have the competitiveness or the drive for success. I'm sure life is a lot less hectic and easier there than up here so I noticed most of the colleagues in our Texas office seem a lot more laid back and less aggressive. There's nothing wrong with that but in my line of business in IT you really need to stay on top of technology and stay current or else you drop to the bottom of the food chain.

Which is why most of the high level work is still being done in the Northeast and the South just handles most of the remedial work for us.

There are more and more folks transferring to the Texas office I just don't think I'm ready to make the move.

The grass is always greener on the other side.
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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i see what you're saying vision, but i think you worded it poorly. it's not that they don't have the drive for success, it's that success is defined differently depending on where you are. in the Northeast, there's this common mentality that you don't leave work til the boss leaves, even if you have no work to do. that's not the way people think everywhere. it's not that they lack a drive for success, it's that success isn't the same as it is in NYC. speaking generally, but that's my experience having worked for 2 different companies with offices all over the country, you could see the difference between offices based on the regions.
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