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Old 02-10-2015, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Earth
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You mean what did the whole democratic panel do ?
No. I mean christie. What did he do? the man wants to president. He promised me lower taxes. Why hasn't that happened? Why hasn't he rebuilt the shore? I thought we were stronger than the storm.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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No. I mean christie. What did he do? the man wants to president. He promised me lower taxes. Why hasn't that happened? Why hasn't he rebuilt the shore? I thought we were stronger than the storm.
Christie did nothing. He got the state's finance's downgraded twice because he was too much of a wimp to reform the pension system that he said he would fix. Wait until the next Governor gets into office and starts spending like a beast again. Eventually the house of cards comes down. Move over Detroit, NJ won't be outdone.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:25 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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is this supposed to be considered journalism? the average property taxes in newark vs millburn, without commenting on the average size of a property/square footage of the home? c'mon. this article is tabloid-level writing.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I'm surprised $20K gets him volunteer firefighters and limited garbage pickup. How can this happen to NJ? In NY, villages charging those taxes can at least claim to provide a wide range of municipal services.
my property taxes aren't $20k. i'm not sure what the average is for my town, but it's often cited as a high tax town. we have a professional fire department, which i've seen firsthand in two cases how valuable it is to have a 1-2 minute response time, we have a great police department, we have excellent trash pickup and recylcling services including leaf pickup, and the roads are well maintained and taken care of throughout the year, especially for winter storms.

would i like to pay lower taxes? sure! but at least we get a lot of services for our money in my town.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Property taxes are out of control in NJ and because they support the public school systems.

You can't expand your .12 acres to .75 and have it jump from around $6K to $37K in property taxes because it doesn't work like that.

Here's what you can get for close to $50K in property taxes and sits on 5.5 acres (couldn't find any properties with a $37K property tax that sat on under an acre at the moment):

1 Pine Hollow Ln, Far Hills, NJ 07931 is For Sale - Zillow
are you sure they aren't benefiting from that law that exempts farmland, including land with a certain % of trees, from property taxes? a lot of properties in that area do that.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Why anyone would even consider buying a home in NJ is beyond me.
1. Good schools
2. Access to a large pool of employers in both NYC via excellent public transportation or in NJ
3. Nicely situated on the East Coast near the beaches, within a 4-6 hour drive from fantastic skiing, numerous amusement parks, arts attractions, and sports.
4. Access to good salaries, especially for college educated professionals.
5. Good outdoors options for hiking, biking, running, etc.

I'm sure this is just a few of the reasons
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: NYC
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my property taxes aren't $20k. i'm not sure what the average is for my town, but it's often cited as a high tax town. we have a professional fire department, which i've seen firsthand in two cases how valuable it is to have a 1-2 minute response time, we have a great police department, we have excellent trash pickup and recylcling services including leaf pickup, and the roads are well maintained and taken care of throughout the year, especially for winter storms.

would i like to pay lower taxes? sure! but at least we get a lot of services for our money in my town.
In reality, NJ taxes won't be sustainable because there are no business opportunities. NJ taxes hurts small business and they give big business tax breaks so they don't pay any taxes in exchange for low pay jobs. So it's up to residents to pick up the tab. Whenever theres a recession, it affects NJ towns the most. We can't have towns that depends solely on property taxes to prop the budget or beg the governor for money. Small business activities is low in NJ because the big businesses are not paying anything and driving competition away.

Ever heard of diversifying your portfolio?

Places like Newark could survive on business activities, lower property taxes but they have so many leeches on their payroll the town is hemorrhaging and are forced to fire Police staff.

Atlantic City used to be the tourism capital here and major source of revenue and now that's vaporized because it was always a dumb idea to put casinos where there are no airports, seaports, or major source of transportation there. Kill that city and move it somewhere that's got a big transit hub.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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I think NJ property and state taxes are in line with most other areas in the tri state area within probably two hours of NYC. From what I know, property taxes in Rockland and Westchester counties in NY, Nassau and Western Suffolk, Fairfield county in Connecticut are pretty similar. State taxes I think are higher in NY then in NJ. So I am confused about these constant threads about hi taxes in NJ. The taxes are high in the entire tri state area.

So if someone does not benefit from the job opportunities afforded by the proximity to NYC then they should move. I know it is not easy but these are just facts, unfortunately.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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With all these issues, It boggles my mind why people in NJ consistently vote Democrat. Sure the Gov. Is a Republican but the whole State is controlled by Democrats.
if you go across the state, you'll find plenty of Republican in local and county positions. the truth is - the people of NJ have been voting for these policies and turning their heads away from numerous stupid policies for decades no matter what letter was in front of someone's name. It's not like highly Republican areas have lower property taxes, so I don't really understand your argument here.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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I've never lived in New Jersey but have family that does live there and it blows my mind how much you all pay for property taxes. It is a wonder anyone can afford to live there when your taxes are almost as much as your mortgage.

Then it seems everyone I met was retired very young (a few under 50) who worked for state or local government and were pulling in $100,000 a year in retirement.

That is insane.
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