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Old 03-04-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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No it doesn't. At least, not in this thread.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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No it doesn't. At least, not in this thread.
It does, it was, it is addressed, we now move on.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:43 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I am not looking for a miracle cure,otherwise i would just use cocaine.

I already reduced my caloric intake and still nothing.
haha, slow metabolism??? thats funny what people will convince themselves. unless you have a medical condition, it is all about your calorie intake. especially if you are starting from a very high weight. its tougher for people that are already thin and trying to get thinner for the beach or just to impress people.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Dover, New Jersey
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jerseygal4u where are you located in NJ?? I know a few clinics in the south jersey area.....
Capemaysis, Im interested to know.
I have a back injury so light/brisk walking and only for short periods of time is the only excersice I am allowed to do. I'd like info please.
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Old 04-13-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Wow i just read many celebs used coke to lose weight.

looks promising too..
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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Had to grave-dig this thread, which really IMO belongs in another part of the forum.

I have a "weight problem" (chuckle), an irascible, ogre-ish, intellectual nerd who is 50 years old, directs major IT programs, and spends a bit too much time on his ample rear vs. outside hiking and other activities.

We could say I am a fat guy who has eyes wide open. I am self-indulgent, single, and spend more on gadgets and sports cars than my own health. So, there you have it. All with a wry sense of humor, as self-indulgence does not equal self-delusion, people.

I've lost large amounts of weight twice in my life (50-plus pounds). I call that "brute force weight loss," meaning 1) controlled diet 2) heavy exercise 3) iron will to put down the fork and/or shove off from fatty and sugary things clearly adding to the problem. To half the wags on this thread: OF COURSE that is the way forward! It is the only way forward, to be normal weight!

But guess what: we live in an age of plenty, in a land of plenty. I seldom met a carb bar (of anything) I didn't like. Well, can't blame the food, but we *can* blame human temptation and neurosis.

Is "Neurosis" a dirty, shameful word to many on this thread? Why else would people like me, and millions of others, over-eat? Instinct, compensation for other gaps in our lives, who knows. But there it sits.

I went to weight loss clinic a few weeks ago, and started their "program" two days ago. Originally, they suggested Contrave, but now it's Qsymia based on my situation. They suggest it will take the edge off the hunger, giving time to learn what is frankly the error of my ways and make it much easier to eat sensibly. I must say, the first 48 hours without meds, but on a specific low-carb diet full of greens, protein, and not much else, was a total white-knuckler. I know *exactly* how to white-knuckle and brute-force this, but I will attempt...attempt...the addition of some meds to smooth it out. If it makes it easier, great. If not, I go off them, and try brute force (diet, exercise) yet again and will probably be successful if and only if I have sufficient will over the course of six months to a year. No days off for good behavior.

After only one day on that particular med, a "starter dosage" for two weeks, I have no idea if it is solving anything. Could be a placebo for all I know. I'm on my little diet, which is challenging but not impossible. We shall see, we shall just see what happens here. I'm willing to try something new, to get better long term results. How's that? Pretty soon, I'll start my half-hour per day on the elliptical again as that was a magnificent investment six years ago (a Precor, in my rec room).

Bottom line:

1. Yes, I/O (calories in/out) is the only answer
2. Few, if any, non-starving plans can survive without exercise. We need it regardless.
3. These pills...and there are several brands...may or may not help smooth the path to fully embracing 1) and 2). That's all I want, personally.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Is "Neurosis" a dirty, shameful word to many on this thread? Why else would people like me, and millions of others, over-eat? Instinct, compensation for other gaps in our lives, who knows. But there it sits.

Bottom line:

1. Yes, I/O (calories in/out) is the only answer
2. Few, if any, non-starving plans can survive without exercise. We need it regardless.
3. These pills...and there are several brands...may or may not help smooth the path to fully embracing 1) and 2). That's all I want, personally.
its because eating gives pleasure. it is up to us to balance that out with the negative impacts of eating too much.

exercise is totally not necessary for losing weight. it is good for health and for appearance; but reducing calories is going to account for 90+% of your weight loss even if you exercise regularly.

pills arent going to change who you are unless you never stop taking them. if you dont change your mindset; long term weight loss wont happen.
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